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Can I have both: Fighter quick shield block and champion quick block?
Champion: Quick Block
https://2e.aonprd.com/Feats.aspx?ID=234
Trait: Champion
You can block with your shield instinctively. At the start of each of your turns, you gain an additional reaction that you can use only to perform a Shield Block.
Fighter: Quick Shield Block
https://2e.aonprd.com/Feats.aspx?ID=394
Traits: Fighter, Bastion dedication, Viking dedication
You can bring your shield into place with hardly a thought. At the start of each of your turns, you gain an additional reaction that you can use only to Shield Block.
Fighter: Quick Shield Block
https://2e.aonprd.com/Feats.aspx?ID=428
Trait: Fighter
With a sixth sense for the flow of combat, you can quickly react to any situation as required. At the start of each enemy’s turn, you gain a reaction you can use only during that turn.
https://2e.aonprd.com/Rules.aspx?ID=393
Gaining and Losing Actions chapter dont say anything about reactions.
https://2e.aonprd.com/Rules.aspx?ID=387
Reactions have triggers, which must be met for you to use the reaction. You can use a reaction anytime its trigger is met, whether it’s your turn or not. In an encounter, you get 1 reaction each round, which you can use as described on page 468. Outside of encounters, your use of reactions is more flexible and up to the GM. Reactions are usually triggered by other creatures or by events outside your control.
Yes, because they are different feats. (And there's no hint of error.)
But you wouldn't be able to get the same feat from different sources, i.e. the Bastion & Fighter for Quick Shield Block.
Nor would you be able to Shield Block the same attack twice (or thrice), so getting more Shield Blocks/round would have decreasing benefit though you'd be the bane of minions (against whom your shield would also endure many more hits).
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Yes, because they are different feats. (And there's no hint of error.)
But you wouldn't be able to get the same feat from different sources, i.e. the Bastion & Fighter for Quick Shield Block.
Nor would you be able to Shield Block the same attack twice (or thrice), so getting more Shield Blocks/round would have decreasing benefit though you'd be the bane of minions (against whom your shield would also endure many more hits).
That part is clear for me about the multiple reaction/free action with the same trigger.
But with 3 reactions I can use attack of opportunity, reactive shield, shield block
Yes, because they are different feats. (And there's no hint of error.)
But you wouldn't be able to get the same feat from different sources, i.e. the Bastion & Fighter for Quick Shield Block.
Nor would you be able to Shield Block the same attack twice (or thrice), so getting more Shield Blocks/round would have decreasing benefit though you'd be the bane of minions (against whom your shield would also endure many more hits).That part is clear for me about the multiple reaction/free action with the same trigger.
But with 3 reactions I can use attack of opportunity, reactive shield, shield block
If your abilities that give you extra reactions/turn (not just extra options for using your basic reaction) specifically give you two of those actions. AFAIK no ability gives an extra reaction that could be used for whatever you wish.
So if you had Quick Block & Quick Shield Block, then no.
You'd have one normal use of a reaction for either AoO or Reactive Shield (or Shield Block if you wanted a third).
And you'd have two bonus uses only for Shield Block.
So in all instances you'd have to use two of your three for Shield Block.
Unless you added on Combat Reflexes for the bonus AoO reaction.
(There will never be a feat to give you an extra Reactive Shield unless it has much broader options too.)
Maybe the error is in thinking of reactions as a font, or pool from which all of your reactions can pull. They aren't, and they can't.
ETA: Boundless Reprisals (Fighter 20th) does make an exception to much of what I wrote.
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Yes, because they are different feats. (And there's no hint of error.)
But you wouldn't be able to get the same feat from different sources, i.e. the Bastion & Fighter for Quick Shield Block.
Nor would you be able to Shield Block the same attack twice (or thrice), so getting more Shield Blocks/round would have decreasing benefit though you'd be the bane of minions (against whom your shield would also endure many more hits).That part is clear for me about the multiple reaction/free action with the same trigger.
But with 3 reactions I can use attack of opportunity, reactive shield, shield block
If your abilities that give you extra reactions/turn (not just extra options for using your basic reaction) specifically give you two of those actions. AFAIK no ability gives an extra reaction that could be used for whatever you wish.
So if you had Quick Block & Quick Shield Block, then no.
You'd have one normal use of a reaction for either AoO or Reactive Shield (or Shield Block if you wanted a third).
And you'd have two bonus uses only for Shield Block.
So in all instances you'd have to use two of your three for Shield Block.
Unless you added on Combat Reflexes for the bonus AoO reaction.
(There will never be a feat to give you an extra Reactive Shield unless it has much broader options too.)Maybe the error is in thinking of reactions as a font, or pool from which all of your reactions can pull. They aren't, and they can't.
ETA: Boundless Reprisals (Fighter 20th) does make an exception to much of what I wrote.
I'm sorry for the confusion of the example.
I mean, stacking reactions, I can have:
Fighter:
Quick Shield Block (8)
Combat Reflex(10)
Quick Block (Champion level 8) Champion dedication (16)
Boundless reprisals (20)
Enemy 1 act, reactive shield from boundless reprisal, AoO Normal reaction, Shield block from Quick Shield Block
Enemy 2 act, AoO from boundless reprisal, Shield block from Quick block
Enemy 3 act, AoO combat reflex, Shield block from boundless reprisal
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No action can trigger more than a single Reaction per Character, that is, until they print an ability that explicitly permits it.
Even if you have had a hypothetical 10 different Reactions that could apply to a single trigger you will still need to choose one to apply. That said it is possible to use multiple Reactions during other Characters' turns as long as you have the spare Reactions to use like this kind of Fighter would.
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If you can have more than two reactions, I don't see why the two shouldn't stack. The problem is elsewhere.
It's my opinion that Quick Block and Quick Shield Block were intended to be the same feat, and it was overlooked. The are gained at the same level, they have extremely similar flavor text, and their names are almost exactly the same, just remove "shield" for the Champion version.
Currently there's nothing stopping you, but I'm not sure if gaining additional reactions follows the same rules as quickened or not.
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No action can trigger more than a single Reaction per Character, that is, until they print an ability that explicitly permits it.
Even if you have had a hypothetical 10 different Reactions that could apply to a single trigger you will still need to choose one to apply. That said it is possible to use multiple Reactions during other Characters' turns as long as you have the spare Reactions to use like this kind of Fighter would.
The 3 reactions listed have different triggers.
For example a enemy within reach Attack with Quick Draw.Manipulate trait from draw weapon, trigger AoO
Be targeted, trigger Reactive Shield
"WOULD" Take Damage, trigger Shield block
http://2e.aonprd.com/Rules.aspx?ID=442
Once your first turn begins, you gain your actions and reaction. You can use 1 reaction per round. You can use a reaction on anyone’s turn (including your own), but only when its trigger occurs. If you don’t use your reaction, you lose it at the start of your next turn, though you typically then gain a reaction at the start of that turn.
http://2e.aonprd.com/Rules.aspx?ID=391
The triggers listed in the stat blocks of reactions and some free actions limit when you can use those actions. You can use only one action in response to a given trigger. For example, if you had a reaction and a free action that both had a trigger of “your turn begins,” you could use either of them at the start of your turn—but not both. If two triggers are similar, but not identical, the GM determines whether you can use one action in response to each or whether they’re effectively the same thing. Usually, this decision will be based on what’s happening in the narrative.
The part that require GM Fiat is this, but I think that damage and target are very different triggers, those are the same triggers from Nimble Dodge and Champions Reaction for example and they are very different.