Spiritual Epidemic duration, "permanent," and counteracting.


Rules Discussion


This spell made me wonder about the order of Counteracting and spell effects triggered by it.
If my cleric casts a high-level divine Dispel or Remove Curse on someone permanently affected by Spiritual Epidemic, and it succeeds, does the cleric still have to make a save against the effects of the spell? I can't find a clear rule about the order of resolution for those effects, so should I assume the spell description, being the more specific rule, takes precedence?
Thanks!

CRB p.372 wrote:

You curse the target, sapping its spirit and leaving a contagious

trap in its essence. The target must attempt a Will save. Any
creature that casts a divine or occult spell on the target while
it’s affected is targeted by spiritual epidemic and must also
attempt a Will save. The curse continues to spread in this way.

Grand Archive

Well, if dispel magic could counter the curse, it wouldn't trigger the curse because it doesn't target the target of the curse, it targets "1 spell effect or unattended magic item".

As for the order of operation for remove curse, this falls into the category of GM gets to decide.

Advice-wise, I'd say, just find an occult caster to cast remove curse instead of a divine caster.

Horizon Hunters

I like the thought that the curse spreads first, even if you end up counteracting it. What use is a curse that spreads to other divine casters if they can just remove it with no issues?

Also, Curses can not be counteracted with Dispel Magic, so you would need someone to use Remove Curse. As Leo stated, if you're able to identify the curse just get a Bard or Witch to counteract it.

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