With the Cloud Jump feat, High Jump uses the regular calculation for Long Jump (no triple distance). High Jump uses the vertical Leap which has a vertical and horizontal distance. Does the new calculation through Cloud Jump only apply to High Jump's vertical distance?
Also, with High Jump using the new calculation through Cloud Jump, how does High Jump's regular critical success entry interact with this, if at all?
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"High Jump Two Actions
Source Core Rulebook pg. 242 2.0
You Stride, then make a vertical Leap and attempt a DC 30 Athletics check to increase the height of your jump."
Cloud jump allows you to replace the degrees of success of High Jump by those of Long Jump. So the results from the degrees of success of High Jump do not apply anymore. And those of Long Jump apply except that they now increase the height of your jump, as stated in the description of High Jump above.
So, the new calculation applies to the vertical distance and there is no horizontal distance gained. High Jump's regular critical success entry does not apply, since the whole degrees of success (including critical success) have been replaced by those of Long Jump.
High Jump uses the vertical Leap which has a vertical and horizontal distance. Does the new calculation through Cloud Jump only apply to High Jump's vertical distance?
Interesting. That's not something that I had ever considered before.
Yes, I believe that is correct. Your horizontal range is not affected by Cloud Jump and thus should probably remain the same.
High Jump uses the vertical Leap which has a vertical and horizontal distance. Does the new calculation through Cloud Jump only apply to High Jump's vertical distance?Interesting. That's not something that I had ever considered before.
Yes, I believe that is correct. Your horizontal range is not affected by Cloud Jump and thus should probably remain the same.
If I were to DM I would allow Diagonal jumps. It is kind of easy to get an aproximation of jump distance, just take into consideration a High Jump distance and the Long Jump distance you would get with the same DC. With Cloud Jump you could say you long jump 3 times as easy as High jumps. Then lets say that you want to make a 30 Ft jump on a 45 degree angle. Treat it as 3D movement, but horizontal movement cost 3 times less than vertical movement. If you draw a 45 degree movement on a square mat, you would move either 3 times horizontally and 4 vertically or viceversa. Using the first one for easy maths (the other one would have a lower DC so it would be preferable, but this is just an example), you jump 20 ft vertically and 15 horizontally. As 15 ft of horizontal movement is equal, DC wise, to 5 of vertical movement, the DC for this jump should be 25. If you can't make groups of 3 with the horizontal squares, 1 square left would increse de DC by 1,67 -> 2 and 2 squares would increase the DC by 3,33 -> 4.
With something like Sudden Jump it would be even easier to calculate.
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High Jump uses the vertical Leap which has a vertical and horizontal distance. Does the new calculation through Cloud Jump only apply to High Jump's vertical distance?Interesting. That's not something that I had ever considered before.
Yes, I believe that is correct. Your horizontal range is not affected by Cloud Jump and thus should probably remain the same.
RD is right. You keep the horizontal range of the vertical Leap.