Questions about spell durations and alchemie extracts

[manhai]

Hello

I stated to play Pathfinder with few friends and we had a few questions we don’t find an answere.
I hope you can help me

1. When I (class: alchemist) make an extract (spell: Beast Shape I) combined with discovery “Infusion” other can use the extract. But when must be determined in which beast someone transformed? When I brew the extract or the extract is used (by the person who uses it)?

2. Some spell has very small durations (e.g. 1 round=6seconds) but for some spells it seems this duration is to small (e.g. Crime of Opportunity). 6 seconds seems to short to perform a crime? Did we play this spell false?

Sory for my bad english it is not my born language

Thanks for your help
Manuel Haider

[VoodistMonk]

Thanks for posting... don't worry about your English.

Pretty sure that the person drinking the potion makes the choices for the spell. So whoever drinks the Beast Shape Infusion will choose which beast they take the shape of.

Crime of Opportunity is a low level compulsion spell, its 6 second duration is plenty for the target to try steal the nearest shiny object or attack the nearest person.

[MrCharisma]

Heya, welcome to the forums.

1. VoodistMonk is correct, the person who drinks it makes the choice of what shape to become.

2. Yes 1 round is short but that's what the spell says. The spell is designed to cause mischeif or force an enemy to waste an action. (Just a note: Crime of Opportunity is NOT on the alchemist formula list, and if used as an Alchemist extract it would have no effect. The person used their standard action drinking the extract and doesn't have another standard action to commit a crime.)

[Derklord]

manhai wrote:

When I (class: alchemist) make an extract (spell: Beast Shape I) combined with discovery “Infusion” other can use the extract. But when must be determined in which beast someone transformed? When I brew the extract or the extract is used (by the person who uses it)?

"You make the choice when you drink it." The infusion discovery doesn't change that, the drinker makes any and all choices.

manhai wrote:

Some spell has very small durations (e.g. 1 round=6seconds) but for some spells it seems this duration is to small (e.g. Crime of Opportunity). 6 seconds seems to short to perform a crime? Did we play this spell false?

In case it's not clear, Crime of Opportunity isn't about just doing any kind of criminal act, it's just a one-round-version of Crime Wave. The target would roll on the table in the Crime Wave description and follow what it says, and since all these things can be done in one round, it all works well. Provided there is a potential target within movement speed distance of the target, but that's where the "opportunity" part comes from.

[manhai]

thanks für the answeres this helps a lot