Vampiric Touch and summoned creatures


Rules Questions


I know there is the whole metaphysical conundrum about a creature that is summoned being not really all here (like an Astral Projection, only coming into the prime), but is there any RAW reasoning I am missing that you could not summon a creature and use vampiric Touch on it to gain the Temp HPs?

IF you did so, and were a good aligned creature summoning another good aligned creature, is such an act evil? This is where that summon vs called things comes into play.

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Conjuration(Summoning) wrote:

Summoning: a summoning spell instantly brings a creature or object to a place you designate. When the spell ends or is dispelled, a summoned creature is instantly sent back to where it came from, but a summoned object is not sent back unless the spell description specifically indicates this. A summoned creature also goes away if it is killed or if its hit points drop to 0 or lower, but it is not really dead. It takes 24 hours for the creature to reform, during which time it can’t be summoned again.

When the spell that summoned a creature ends and the creature disappears, all the spells it has cast expire. A summoned creature cannot use any innate summoning abilities it may have.

They are actually there. While they cannot die, I'd still say its evil if all you do is summon them to fuel your temporary HP.

Find a way to give yourself fast healing and cast Vampiric Touch on yourself :)


Dragonborn3 wrote:
Find a way to give yourself fast healing and cast Vampiric Touch on yourself :)

This was situational, as as the GM -- no way I'm gonna suggest that, they are clever enough on their own. The PC summoned up a celestial dire ape and her opponent had Circle Prt/G and the celestial ape couldn't touch him, so she had a device and used a Vampiric Touch instead of just sending the creature home, killed it too - rolled like 25 on 5d6. I allowed it, but a morality debate happened because of it.

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