Can Staff Nexus cantrip and 1st level spell be changed later?


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I don't see any verbage around this, so I'm assuming no, but I was hoping that somebody on here can convince me otherwise :P

Liberty's Edge

You'd need retraining for this but it's totally possible since the Cantrips and 1st Level Spells you add would still have been totally valid options for a choice you made for the Ability at the time, that is unless somehow you gained Access to these Cantrips or the 1st Level Spell at a later level due to some higher-level Feat or other option that made them available to you.


Themetricsystem wrote:
You'd need retraining for this but it's totally possible since the Cantrips and 1st Level Spells you add would still have been totally valid options for a choice you made for the Ability at the time, that is unless somehow you gained Access to these Cantrips or the 1st Level Spell at a later level due to some higher-level Feat or other option that made them available to you.

I'm not very familiar with the retraining rules, but I'm skeptical that you can retrain an item that you've made. If you craft a Ring of Sustenance could you later retrain it into a Ring of Swimming?

Liberty's Edge

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Gisher wrote:
I'm not very familiar with the retraining rules, but I'm skeptical that you can retrain an item that you've made. If you craft a Ring of Sustenance could you later retrain it into a Ring of Swimming?

The Makeshift Staff isn't REALLY an item you crafted at all, you just begin play with one and you make a decision on what Spells to load it up with based on the final list of Spells from your Spellbook. It's granted via their class via an ability, and per the retraining rules, you could even retrain OUT of the Staff Nexus Thesis altogether if you wanted, let alone choosing new Spells for your Staff.


Themetricsystem wrote:
Gisher wrote:
I'm not very familiar with the retraining rules, but I'm skeptical that you can retrain an item that you've made. If you craft a Ring of Sustenance could you later retrain it into a Ring of Swimming?

The Makeshift Staff isn't REALLY an item you crafted at all, you just begin play with one and you make a decision on what Spells to load it up with based on the final list of Spells from your Spellbook. It's granted via their class via an ability, and per the retraining rules, you could even retrain OUT of the Staff Nexus Thesis altogether if you wanted, let alone choosing new Spells for your Staff.

Interesting. I didn't think Arcane Thesis was changeable, either.

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