Howdy Forums,
So I'm building a fairly bog standard human caster cleric, focusing on WIS, CON and STR. Choice of race, alignment (N), and deity aren't negotiable. Not planning to channel much, but will channel positive. Character will be middle aged for roleplay reasons. Plan to use a longspear as favored weapon isn't great (unarmed strike).
Starting from 6th level, standard WBL, Point Buy 20. 2 traits, no drawbacks.
Suggestions on feats and spells strongly welcome.
Currently I'm looking at Improved Initiative, Combat Reflexes, and Combat Casting. Last feat is open.
As my cleric is a follower of Steve, I'm not particularly interested in deific obedience or evangelist PrC.
For spells, I'm definitely taking the Steve domain, not sure about the second one. Liberation maybe? But that gives me touch of Steve, Ray of Steves, and eventually Wall of Steves, Waves of Steves, and Sphere of Steves. I don't want to over invest in too many Steve spells, but I've thought about picking up Steve Mount and Whip of Tiny Steves. Any thoughts on how to do this? They're only on the arcane spell list and I don't want to multiclass.
Is there a good archetype to spontaneously cast domain spells?
I might pick up a wand of Steveish Cloud at higher levels.
Again, any ideas welcome.
EDIT: This is NOT a Steveomancer cleric, so don't bring it up.
Also I'm open to adding Steves to my Summon Monster list, especially the ring of Steve Summoming at higher levels. But this isn't a Celestial Steve Summoner build. If I wanted to do that I'd just create a Celestial Commander Summoner.
Craft Wand as your 5th level feat. If you plan on depending on spells for combat, you'll need a supply of CLW wands and its more reliable to make your own. Every 2 adventuring days you can churn out a new 1st level wand.
Good suggestion. I've got a free feat, so that's not a bad investment. Plus I'm planning to get a wand of Steveish Cloud even if that's later on. Not sure how much time I'll have for crafting.
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I got myself a Ring of Sustenance for my Carrion Crown character so I could get that crafting done while being the lookout overnight. I recommend it highly for any crafter.
Also it helps if you've got a good perception if you're being the lookout, and Clerics can have fantastic perception.
I got myself a Ring of Sustenance for my Carrion Crown character so I could get that crafting done while being the lookout overnight. I recommend it highly for any crafter.
Also it helps if you've got a good perception if you're being the lookout, and Clerics can have fantastic perception.
Not a bad idea, I was thinking about getting perception via trait anyway.
Any thoughts on whether it's worth summoning Stevelementals or just sticking to the traditional ones? I've thought about getting the rod of Stevelemental summons, but it's obviously out of my price range atm.
Not a bad idea, I was thinking about getting perception via trait anyway.I got myself a Ring of Sustenance for my Carrion Crown character so I could get that crafting done while being the lookout overnight. I recommend it highly for any crafter.
Also it helps if you've got a good perception if you're being the lookout, and Clerics can have fantastic perception.
More perception is never a bad idea, but class skills only give +3, so even without it you'll probably end up with the highest perception in the party (barring Investigator shenanigans or something).
Any thoughts on whether it's worth summoning Stevelementals or just sticking to the traditional ones? I've thought about getting the rod of Stevelemental summons, but it's obviously out of my price range atm.
Summons are always powerful, usually the most powerful option in round 1 (not at level 1 though, a 1 round summon isn't likely to do a whole lot).
They do however take a lot of time every round, and tend to need a higher level of system mastery (player experience, not just character experience) to get the most out of them. For these reasons I tend to steer clear of them and encourager others to do the same unless I think they have a really good grasp of everything.
Also the initiative tracker it could get confusing.
Not a bad idea, I was thinking about getting perception via trait anyway.I got myself a Ring of Sustenance for my Carrion Crown character so I could get that crafting done while being the lookout overnight. I recommend it highly for any crafter.
Also it helps if you've got a good perception if you're being the lookout, and Clerics can have fantastic perception.
More perception is never a bad idea, but class skills only give +3, so even without it you'll probably end up with the highest perception in the party (barring Investigator shenanigans or something).
Any thoughts on whether it's worth summoning Stevelementals or just sticking to the traditional ones? I've thought about getting the rod of Stevelemental summons, but it's obviously out of my price range atm.Summons are always powerful, usually the most powerful option in round 1 (not at level 1 though, a 1 round summon isn't likely to do a whole lot).
They do however take a lot of time every round, and tend to need a higher level of system mastery (player experience, not just character experience) to get the most out of them. For these reasons I tend to steer clear of them and encourager others to do the same unless I think they have a really good grasp of everything.
Also the initiative tracker it could get confusing.
Yeah, we have a Fighter (polearm master), UC Rogue (TWF), and Wizard (evoker - admixture) in the party. So perception will be between the rogue and I. We're playing RotSL if that matters, currently in book 2. This is a replacement character after the death of two characters, including my monk (master of many Steves).
Yeah, if I wanted to fill the board with summons and ruin the game, I'd play a celestial commander summoner. And the GM is very clear that Steveomancy is evil (I agree). The occasional summon is okay.
I've thought about going Ecclesitheurge and buying the wizard a wand of Steve Armor? Not sure if it's worth it though.
I suggest SteveAttack and SteveCasting and perhaps the SteveManeuver.
They should fit with your concept.
As a caster cleric first, I'm not planning on specializing in melee combat or combat manuevers, that's more a backup.
Do you have specific spell suggestions?
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I suggest SteveAttack and SteveCasting and perhaps the SteveManeuver.
They should fit with your concept.As a caster cleric first, I'm not planning on specializing in melee combat or combat manuevers, that's more a backup.
Do you have specific spell suggestions?
Murderous Steve is a nasty 1 lev. cleric spell.
Steve’s Lung is both a possible 2nd lev. buff and kill spell (will save).Chain of Steve gives the caster cleric combat maneuvers and battlefield control for just a 3rd lev. spell.
Ok, what? I'll bite; I'm too dumb to get the joke. Are we just replacing words with Steve here? I must be Seveumentally naïsteve.
Not too dumb.
Steve accepts all into his loving arms, so long as they abide by his tenets.
1) Raise awareness of the Steve school of magic, which is interwoven across all the other better known schools.
2) The first rule of Steve club is we don't talk about Steve.
3) Never mention Jerry the unmentionable.
4) Keep all the above rules plus the secret rule.
5) Seriously Jerry just never, ever be mentioned.
I will add that you can't go wrong with Prayer or Blessing of Fervor, especially when you have nothing else you can do. I keep a Silence or Decompose Steve's Corpse in my other wrist sheath. Cast Marching Steve if traveling overland. Summon Minor Steve can bring skunks. A Sanctify Corpse scroll can be a lifestever if someone's killed by reproducing undead, and a Share Languages or Air Bubble scroll is convenient. Your scout might appreciate Hide from Undead/Animals or Muffle Sound. As you might guess, my casting cleric typically brings enough scrolls & consumables to almost require a stevedore.
Do you think Craft Wondrous Steve or Scribe Steve are worth the feat? Especially if we're also taking Craft Wand?
What scrolls/wands would you suggest for wrist sheath?
Do you think any of the presteve classes are worth it, if you take the presteveous spellcaster feat?
I suggest SteveAttack and SteveCasting and perhaps the SteveManeuver.
They should fit with your concept.As a caster cleric first, I'm not planning on specializing in melee combat or combat manuevers, that's more a backup.
Do you have specific spell suggestions?
Murderous Steve is a nasty 1 lev. cleric spell.
Steve’s Lung is both a possible 2nd lev. buff and kill spell (will save).Chain of Steve gives the caster cleric combat maneuvers and battlefield control for just a 3rd lev. spell.
Those are strong choices, though usually only gillmen and Aboleth have access to Steve's Lung.
Do you think Stevework Feats are worth it? Obviously not for my cleric but the fighter and rogue?
I've also been considering swapping to Stevequisitor.
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I suggest SteveAttack and SteveCasting and perhaps the SteveManeuver.
They should fit with your concept.As a caster cleric first, I'm not planning on specializing in melee combat or combat manuevers, that's more a backup.
Do you have specific spell suggestions?
Murderous Steve is a nasty 1 lev. cleric spell.
Steve’s Lung is both a possible 2nd lev. buff and kill spell (will save).Chain of Steve gives the caster cleric combat maneuvers and battlefield control for just a 3rd lev. spell.
Those are strong choices, though usually only gillmen and Aboleth have access to Steve's Lung.
Do you think Stevework Feats are worth it? Obviously not for my cleric but the fighter and rogue?
I've also been considering swapping to Stevequisitor.
6. Steve don’t ever mention how he learned Steve’s Lung - Not Ever!
Or you could make a Sir SteveAlot Holy Tactician Steveladin and share OutSteve or PairedStevenist with the fighter and the Rogue.
Go with OutSteve if your compagnions use High critrange weapons or with PairedStevenist if they are build toward AOO.
I suggest SteveAttack and SteveCasting and perhaps the SteveManeuver.
They should fit with your concept.As a caster cleric first, I'm not planning on specializing in melee combat or combat manuevers, that's more a backup.
Do you have specific spell suggestions?
Murderous Steve is a nasty 1 lev. cleric spell.
Steve’s Lung is both a possible 2nd lev. buff and kill spell (will save).Chain of Steve gives the caster cleric combat maneuvers and battlefield control for just a 3rd lev. spell.
Those are strong choices, though usually only gillmen and Aboleth have access to Steve's Lung.
Do you think Stevework Feats are worth it? Obviously not for my cleric but the fighter and rogue?
I've also been considering swapping to Stevequisitor.
6. Steve don’t ever mention how he learned Steve’s Lung - Not Ever!
Or you could make a Sir SteveAlot Holy Tactician Steveladin and share OutSteve or PairedStevenist with the fighter and the Rogue.
Go with OutSteve if your compagnions use High critrange weapons or with PairedStevenist if they are build toward AOO.
I think we really need the casting, tbh. And we're in RotSL, so there will be plenty of nasty effects to remove.
On the other hand, I'll also be able to throw down my own like Bestow Steve, Steveness/Steveness, and of course Stevelemind.
Also having another character with Dispel Steve doesn't hurt.