Boomshaker Fumbus has this power:
During recovery, when you would banish an Alchemical boon or an Arcane Attack spell, you may discard it instead. ([] Then you may recharge a new Arcane Attack spell whose level is 0.)
This question is about the additional "[x] Then you may recharge..." power. One point is that Boomshaker Fumbus can also gain the Arcane proficiency (meaning that it's now possible to recover/recharge Arcane spells) - so let's assume that he has.
If Fumbus has both the Alchemical and Arcane proficiencies:
Do you get to recharge a new level 0 Arcane Attack spell only if you fail the recovery? Or do you still get the spell recharge even if you succeed?
I'm not entirely sure how to interpret the "Then" grammar structure here. Thanks...
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You only do the then if you would banish an Alchemical or Arcane Attack spell during recovery. Because that’s what dictates when the power as a whole activates.
You only do the then if you would banish an Alchemical or Arcane Attack spell during recovery. Because that’s what dictates when the power as a whole activates.
Thanks. Then I think I have a strange follow-up question. Here's Force Missile, a sample Core spell:
POWERS
For your combat check, banish to use Arcane + 2d4.
On another character's combat check, banish to add 2d4 and the Attack, Force, and Magic traits.
DURING RECOVERY
If proficient, discard this card; you may succeed at an Arcane 6 check to recharge it instead.
Once Boomshaker Fumbus becomes proficient in Arcane, would he ever banish an Arcane spell during recovery? Wouldn't he always discard instead?
If so, under these circumstances, does the "level 0 spell recharge" power only work for alchemical items - since those can still be banished?
It would be odd if choosing one power (Arcane proficiency) made another power (spell 0 recharge) strictly worse.
Yeah seems like that would shut off that power entirely if you were to get proficient in Alchemical or Arcane. Unfortunate but not unprecedented. I’d recommend against getting both powers.
Luckily, Alchemical items and spells are templated differently.
Spells are discarded if proficient. Alchemical items aren't (even if proficient), unless the character has a power that says otherwise (e.g., Fumbus's discard power).
So, as written, if Fumbus gets Arcane proficiency and chooses the "spell 0 recharge" power, the spell recharge power works when playing alchemical items, but not when playing arcane attack spells. I.e., the "spell 0 recharge" power gets worse once Fumbus gets arcane proficiency.
Sounds more like an accidental design error than an intended effect, but I'm usually wrong about these things.
Before taking the Arcane proficiency, Fumbus would lose 1 spell (of any level) and when he does, he gets a new level 0 spell. So something like a consolation prize.
After getting the Arcane proficiency, he gets to keep the spell he just cast...
Just FYI, Fumbus's power allows him to keep Arcane Attack spells anyway. For Fumbus, even without Arcane proficiency, Arcane Attack spells are discarded instead of banished.
One thing I've come to realize is that, ruleswise, Fumbus is definitely the most complicated Core character. Brand new PACG players should probably avoid him, as they're bound to interpret his powers incorrectly: invoking, having arcane spells but not arcane proficiency, key differences between alchemical and spell recovery, etc.
I enjoyed using Fumbus in a CotCT all-goblin campaign, but he can definitely stretch your rules knowledge.