Heroes of Golarion,
Given that we are now a year out, have people had experience running PF 2nd Edition using PF 1st Edition APs & Adventures?
* - How hard was the conversion?
* - How well did it work?
* - Which APs hold up well? Which ones don't?
Please let us know your thoughts and results. :)
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There are some discussions in the Conversions subforum, such as at Adventure Paths conversions: join us!. And conversions of individual adventure paths are often discussed in the subforum of that adventure path.
I myself have been converting Ironfang Invasion to PF2. It has been mostly about swapping out the creatures, such as replacing the CR 1 Ironfang Recruits, which are the hobgoblins from Pathfinder 1st Edition Bestiary 1, page 175, with the Hobgobln Soldier, Creature 1, from Pathfinder 2nd Edition Bestiary 1, page 206. I also have to replace traps and treasure. The hardest part is converting the unique creatures. Tonaxian posted his own conversions at Trail of the Hunted 2e Conversion, so I have been copying his work instead. With that help, the Ironfang Invasion conversion is easy.
However, both my players and I frequently alter the story in the module, so my conversions are not a faithful to the original. Other people have more accurate conversions.
Some modules have individual point systems, and I never cared for that. Trail of the Hunted uses a Provision Point system for feeding refugees while hiding in the forest. The Subsist rules from PF2 are not up to the task. I altered the PF2 rules rather than converting the Provision Point system.
Interesting that it is being done on Discord, rather then here. :/
A lot more people use Discord than the Paizo forums, and it allows for much faster communication, the uploading of files, and quick linking.
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Like Mathmuse I am also converting Ironfang Invasion though my biggest challenge is converting treasure. Given the nature of the AP the players heavily depend on found treasure more than most other APs but the list of treasure options for 2E is much more restricted than 1E so I find myself duplicating items too often. I’m looking forward to more material being published for 2E just to expand the options. I have created some custom ones but doing that regularly really eats up my prep and it already takes extra time to convert stat blocks especially unique ones.
Timing can impact the conversion too. If we would have started six months earlier, I would have had to completely create my own stats for the [redacted] in the caves, but luckily they were included in Bestiary II.
I agree that the 2E subsistence rules aren’t a bit lacking in this application, but I just modified the prison points system from 1E to fill my need.
I am posting recaps of each of our sessions so if you want to follow the story and see what changes I’ve made to the narrative, look for the (ironically enough) Heroes of Golarion thread in the Ironfang Invasion forum.
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Like Mathmuse I am also converting Ironfang Invasion though my biggest challenge is converting treasure. Given the nature of the AP the players heavily depend on found treasure more than most other APs but the list of treasure options for 2E is much more restricted than 1E so I find myself duplicating items too often. I’m looking forward to more material being published for 2E just to expand the options. I have created some custom ones but doing that regularly really eats up my prep and it already takes extra time to convert stat blocks especially unique ones.
While converting an NPC is the most work, converting treasure is harder to match to the original intent. Partly this is because, as TwilightKnight said, the options are more limited. Partly this is because the design of armor, weapons, and consumables have changed. A PF2 weapon with a +1 weapon potency rune is the new version of a masterwork weapon, but in theory that rune can be transferred to another weapon. And it makes a weapon magic at a lower level. Resistance is no longer granted by a wondrous item such as a cloak, but instead is granted by resistance runes on armor. Healing potions are split between two brands, alchemical and magical, so when I replace a healing potion from the module, I have to decide which type to use. Talismans are new.
I gave up on trying for close matches and have instead been fooling around. If I want to see what an item might do in the hands of my PCs, I put it into the treasure. I put a +1 shifting longsword into one room, replacing a masterwork longsword and two potions of bull's strength. The party gave it to the dual-wielding ranger, who shifted it to match her +1 kukri from an earlier treasure trove.
Lord Fyre had asked,
Which APs hold up well? Which ones don't?"
I still follow the Jade Regent and Iron Gods subforums, since I can answer questions in those places from my experience. I don't see a discussion of conversion to PF2 there. Iron Gods does have a discussion of conversion to Dungeons & Dragons 5th Edition. That is a measure of interest rather than a measure of difficulty, but it probably means something about the difficulty. In deciding on my next campaign, I narrowed the choices down to Ironfang Invasion or Ruins of Azlant. I picked Ironfang Invasion because it seemed easier to convert to PF2.
Tonaxian and TwilightKnight also chose to convert Ironfang Invasion.
Its advantage was that its main adversaries, hobgoblin soldiers, were in PF2 Bestiary 1. Its other common opponents were animals and other wild creatures. If one were not in the bestiary, then substituting another wild beast would not change the plot.
A disadvantage was when one of my players was reading my copy of Lost Omens World Guide and asked me why I had not mentioned the neighboring nation of Oprak. I had to answer, "It doesn't exist yet and might never exist depending on your characters," and repeat that several times until she realized Oprak forms during Ironfang Invasion. PF2 contains spoilers.