Organization Feats (Lost Omens: Character's Guide)

[willot]

Are the feats in the various organizations available to anyone?
For example, under Firebrands:

Quote:

BACKUP DISGUISE FEAT 2

UNCOMMON GENERAL SKILL
Prerequisites expert in Deception
You have a specific disguise that you keep at the ready, worn underneath your outer
garment. You can change into this disguise to Impersonate as a 3-action activity.
If you have master proficiency in Deception, it is instead a 2-action activity, and if
you have legendary proficiency, it is a single action. You can create a new backup
disguise by spending the normal amount of time it takes you to Impersonate, but
you can have only one backup disguise at a time. Having a backup disguise doesn’t
allow you to remove your armor or any other complex piece of clothing any more
quickly, but once you have those off, the disguise is readily available. Because you
have the backup disguise at the ready, it’s possible that a thorough search might
reveal some elements of the disguise (see Conceal an Object in the Stealth skill).

Where does the block say someone has to be in the firebrands?

At the very least it should have Access: Firebrand Member?

I know its Uncommon but so are alot of other feats that have nothing to do with organizations??

[NielsenE]

Above those feats:

"The following Firebrand options are uncommon,
and members of the Firebrands gain access to them once they reach the
rank of second mark"

[willot]

Still unclear
That's when a Firebrand can get them.
But whats to stop a Second Mark Firebrand teaching to someone who isnt a Firebrand?
No Prerequisite other than expert in Deception?

I feel it is intended that Firebrand members should only have access to them.

This might be another case of unclear wording.

As I said at least they should have Access: Firebrand member

Take Knights of the Lastwall Feats

Quote:

Knights of Lastwall Class Feats

The following class feats are available to Knights of Lastwall. Those with the
champion trait are champion class feats. Those with both the champion and
fighter traits are both champion class feats and fighter class feats; when you
take one of these feats, it loses the trait that doesn’t apply to your class.

....the following class feats are available to Knights of the Lastwall..Well so are alot of others Like general feats. Again Access; Knights of the Lastwall. OR the following class feats are available to Knights of the Lastwall ONLY.

Again unclear.

But i shall treat them as belonging only to those Organizations

[HammerJack]

There isn't anything to stop someone who isn't a Firebrand from learning those feats if there's a story reason for them to. That's... kind of the way rarity and access NORMALLY works. It isn't a machine code kind of system where uncommon and rare options or equipment arental only ever gained via a prescribed access condition.

Some uncommon options don't have any defined access source at all, and become available entirely through applying that kind of GM discretion.

[Nefreet]

Just ask your GM.

Or if this is for Society, you can purchase a Boon that gives you affiliation with another Organization outside of the Pathfinder Society.