Can Defensive Weapon Training and the Defending Melee Weapon Quality Stack?


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Defensive Weapon Training states:

“The fighter gains a +1 shield bonus to his Armor Class. The fighter adds half his weapon’s enhancement bonus (if any) to this shield bonus.”

Defending melee weapon quality states:

“A defending weapon allows the wielder to transfer some or all of the weapon’s enhancement bonus to his AC as a bonus that stacks with all others.”

If I understand Defensive Weapon Training correctly, a fighter that applies this Advanced Weapon Training feature to a weapon group he possesses — in this case, heavy blades — gains a shield bonus despite not actually using (or even holding) a shield. If that same fighter was wielding a +2 longsword, his shield bonus would be +2.

What if that same fighter was wielding a +2 Defending longsword? Would he be able to utilize a +2 shield bonus (courtesy of Defensive Weapon Training) and a +2 bonus to his AC (courtesy of the Defending melee weapon quality)?

Essentially, can RAW allow you to use one enhancement bonus twice, at the same time?


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No.

And the key here is the words "if any"

You've transferred some of your enhancement bonus. It isnt there. It doesnt get a +2 to attack. Or damage. Therefore it cant be used as a secondary pool to double dip.

Once you've used that pool to boost AC, you can't then use it a second time.

Mathematically you could gain a bit of bonus transferring some out and still having an even number left to cut in half to boost ac. But you can't double dip.

I see no way RAW allows this.


Cavall wrote:

No.

And the key here is the words "if any"

You've transferred some of your enhancement bonus. It isnt there. It doesnt get a +2 to attack. Or damage. Therefore it cant be used as a secondary pool to double dip.

Once you've used that pool to boost AC, you can't then use it a second time.

Mathematically you could gain a bit of bonus transferring some out and still having an even number left to cut in half to boost ac. But you can't double dip.

I see no way RAW allows this.

Thank you, Cavall!

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