Magus and Haste?


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Hi there! I need some help figuring out how many attacks a magus can do if they're under the effects of haste. Is it 3 attacks or 4 attacks?

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Under the effects of Haste or using Spell Combat to cast Haste?

If Haste is already active, you can:
Declare Spell Combat
->If the spell cast is a touch spell, make an attack
Full Attack
->If BAB is 6+ make additional Attacks as normal
->As part of Full Attack make the extra attack from Haste
Swift Action can be a Quickened touch spell for another attack or Hurtful/etc.

So, assuming a level 10 Magus(BAB+7) already under the effects of Haste (or using boots, etc) casting Shocking Grasp and no quickened/etc would be Shocking Grasp, Full BAB, Iterative -5, Full BAB(Haste) for 4 attacks.

If they had to cast Haste instead of Shocking Grasp, it would be 3 attacks. If they Declare Spell Combat and take their full attack action before casting the spell (which is an option) and decide to cast Haste afterwards, it would only be 2 attacks (because poor planning).

Reasons for casting the spell after the Full Attack are because you already had a charge held from the previous round (no free attack from that spell), or you want to kill the target/5' step away so you don't provoke an AoO.


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Magus, Spell Combat: Does spell combat count as making a full attack action for the purpose of haste and other effects?

Yes.

Edit 9/9/13: This is a revised ruling about how haste interacts with effects that are essentially a full attack, even though the creature isn't specifically using the full attack action (as required by haste). The earlier ruling did not allow the extra attack from haste when using spell combat.


Oompa Loompa wrote:
Hi there! I need some help figuring out how many attacks a magus can do if they're under the effects of haste. Is it 3 attacks or 4 attacks?

If without haste you make 3 attacks in a full round attack, then haste means you now get 4. If a full round attack only nets 2 attacks, then you get 3. Basically, you get 1 additional attack to what you would normally get.

/cevah

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