Powerful Shove question


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Powerful shove states:

You can push larger foes around with your attack. You can use Aggressive Block or Brutish Shove against a creature up to two sizes larger than you.
When a creature you Shove has to stop moving because it would hit an object, it takes damage equal to your Strength modifier (minimum 1). This happens regardless of how you Shoved the creature.

My question about this rule is what is a defined object? The appendix of the CRB refers you to the equipment sections but gives no official definition. The appendix also tells one to see the items entry. This would lend that a creature would need to be pushed into a wall / tree / wagon or some similar thing which holds a object type stat block, but couldn't one argue that a creature is still a object?


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I'm pretty sure the answer to this goes roughly like "There is not a strictly defined definition of 'object' for this effect. Use your judgement as a GM about whether whatever is in the square would stop the creature's movement."


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Creatures are not considered objects unless they're (non-animated) corpses, at which point they're no longer considered creatures.


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Roboconn wrote:

Powerful shove states:

My question about this rule is what is a defined object? The appendix of the CRB refers you to the equipment sections but gives no official definition. The appendix also tells one to see the items entry. This would lend that a creature would need to be pushed into a wall / tree / wagon or some similar thing which holds a object type stat block, but couldn't one argue that a creature is still a object?

I tried to work out how to fireball a chair in the RAW and I failed.


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