Two questions about the Broodmaster summoner


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Scarab Sages

I'm just passing time playing around with a few random concepts and I was looking at the broodmaster to potentially make it work and it raised a few questions I'm hoping someone can answer. These are not for a PC just theorycrafting.

1) The Broodmaster class say's . . .

At 2nd level, instead of a single eidolon, a broodmaster summons two Small eidolons to his side, each less powerful than the single eidolon of a standard summoner. Each eidolon has it own base form and associated base statistics and free evolutions.

Does this mean that the broodmaster gets 1 Eidiolon at 1st level then a second one at 3rd or that they have 0 at first level and then get 2 at 2nd?

2) At 8th level you can buy the large evolution to get . . .

This allows him to summon two Medium eidolons, four Small eidolons, or one Medium eidolon and two Small eidolons.

Then at 13th level you can buy the huge to get . . .

This allows him to call two Large eidolons, four Medium eidolons, eight Small eidolons, or any similar combination in which two smaller eidolons count as one eidolon of one size larger.

So am I right this means you normally have 2 small and the only way to get a "brood" is buying the large and huge evolutions. I saw a post when looking for this saying you get 1HD per level that can be multiple small ones which would conflict with this.

3) Are you limited to 2 minimum after 2nd level or can you combine 2 amller eidolons into an eidolon of 1 size larger to have 1 medium from 2nd to 8th level when you purchase the large evolution to get 2 medium ones?

4) How would the smaller Eidolon evolution work with this one. Is it not allowed or can you buy it to allow you smaller Eidolons e.g. 2 Small, 4 tiny?

5) How do the Eidolon's function with action economy? Normally its player character gets X, summoned creature gets X. Here you can potentially have up to 8 small Eidolon's. Admitedly they wouldn't be that good in combat but do they each have their own action economy (Standard, move, free)? I assume they do since it mentions this as good for solo party but I'd like to be sure.


1: 'This ability replaces the summoner’s normal eidolon ability.' - meaning 0 at 1st level, 2 at 2nd.

2: Yes, the larger brood ability is the only way the archetype gives to get more than 2 eidolons. Multiclassing into elemental ally druid is the only other means of getting extra eidolons I can think of.

3: There are no rules implying you can do that.

4: What evolution is that? There are rules for making a base form into a size small version (which this archetype uses), but no 'smaller' evolution I'm aware of.

5: Yes, each eidolon has their own set of actions.

Slightly edited because the OP changed as I wrote.

Scarab Sages

avr wrote:


4: What evolution is that? There are rules for making a base form into a size small version (which this archetype uses), but no 'smaller' evolution I'm aware of.

Slightly edited because the OP changed as I wrote.

Sorry had evolutions on the brain at that point I meant the rules regarding making a small Eidolon to start with and how they'd interact with broodmaster. That is you start with medium normally and can choose to have it be small. The broodmaster start with two small can you choose to make them tiny or is it not applicable as they're already starting off as small. I thought they may be getting used here thanks.

Sorry about the editing more questions kept occuring to me after I posted hence why the title is 2 questions and I wind up asking 5. Thnaks for the replies that makes things clear.


You can make a base form size small with that rule (if it's not that size already; some are without use of the broodmaster), but not one size smaller.

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