Samurai's PF2e Warlock

[Samurai]

Since a lot of people seem to be interested in this, I decided to give it a shot myself. This is just version 1.0 right now, I only have the basic Class features down right now. I still need to make Feats as he levels up, but I welcome thoughts, feedback, and ideas!

Samurai's Warlock for Pathfinder 2e version 1.0

[RH]

Samurai wrote:

Since a lot of people seem to be interested in this, I decided to give it a shot myself. This is just version 1.0 right now, I only have the basic Class features down right now. I still need to make Feats as he levels up, but I welcome thoughts, feedback, and ideas!

Samurai's Warlock for Pathfinder 2e version 1.0

Gotta admit I do love the Warlock. More a fan of the original 3.5 version than 5th ed., but there must be a reason so many people are giving this a go.

At a (late night) glance, this looks pretty cool.
Maybe play with the traits of the Eldritch Blast? Would the MAP apply to later levels when getting two or more blasts?
Curious to see the feats you come up with. Been following your various house rule ideas and am a fan of many of them. When I’m able to actually play 2e more I’m sure I’ll want to use a bunch.

[nick1wasd]

I really like the idea of this, good work done here... few things though.

Fiend should be Divine, not Arcane
• Short rests aren't a thing, maybe make a special version of Refocus that takes half an hour/full hour that refreshes you spell pool.
• Eldrich Blast's heightening entries should probably be simplified as "+3 heighten: add another blast", that makes it spell level 4,7,10 but that it a much cleaner format imo (also, don't limit that traditions since future printings might add more traditions to the list)
• They shouldn't really get more cantrips than 5, since that's what all classes cap out at unless they pay a feat
• Invocations might be able to be collapsed into each other and made into feats? just to make sure the amount of pools you pick from is less messy, that's just a thought though
• Armor of Shadows is super strong if it's a cantrip, since those auto-scale and high level Mage Armor is, well, GOOD! :P
• Eldritch Sight would be closer to Magic Sense if it was always on at spell level 1st, and fit more with how things work inside PF2E

I really like the flavor of what you ported, it's just that some of the baseline functions of the game are different, so you have to polish certain aspects because they just work on intrinsically different math. 10/10 effort, 7/10 balance, 10 billion% hopeful the finished project is a thing of beauty

[Samurai]

Thanks for the responses! RH, no, there would be no MAP because all of the blasts are created by the same spell. There would be a -5 multiaction penalty if your 3rd action is to make an attack, or if you used your 1st action to attack then the next 2 to cast Eldritch Blast the blasts would all be at -5 (not a smart way to do it!)

nick1wasd, I hasn't actually noticed that there is no Short Rest in PF2e. It just says "Refocus" takes 10 minutes. Maybe I'll tie the Warlock in to the Refocus, allowing the Warlock to regain 1 Focus point and 1 Spell Slot per 10 minutes rested, and give a feat that increases the speed (maybe 2 each per 10 minutes with the feat?)

I know PF2e has demons and devils casting Divine spells, but I disagree with that choice. Devils may be fallen angels, but Demons have no logical reason to be casting divine spells. "the Fiend" doesn't exactly specify which it is, but I definitely feel Warlocks are better as Arcane casters than Divine casters. Besides, the Oracle is coming in the APG for a Divine spontaneous caster that is far more appropriate.

I didn't see any "Magic Sense" in the books, but you are right, it should just be a continual Detect Magic, but they divided Detect Magic into 2 spells in 2E (which is silly to me). Maybe just say "You can detect magic as an Imprecise sense, and cast Read Aura as a free cantrip?"

I eventually gave them more cantrips because most players will say "Wait, so I could play a sorcerer and eventually get 37 spell slots per day at 20th lvl or a Warlock and only get 11?" I suppose I could make "Add another Cantrip" as an Invocation, but several of the Invocations already give that effect or similar. Besides, the whole point of classes is to break the general rules in specific ways. To me, the whole point of Warlocks is "even more limited number of spell choices, but you can use them more frequently". I see it as a sliding scale:

Wizard = "can eventually learn every spell, but limited number of slots."
Sorcerer = "limited spell repertoire, but more slots"
Warlock = "even more limited spell list, but can use them more often (either because they are or count as cantrips, or because they can regain their slots in a short time)"

One of my early ideas was to have only the highest level of spells count as normal slot-using spell, and every lower level counts as a cantrip instead. But that would be far too powerful eventually, with Fireballs and Lightning Bolts counting as Cantrips after 7th level. So I scrapped that idea.

[Samurai]

Ok, I am now ready to present my full PF2 Warlock class. I am still open to changes and suggestions, but I'm pretty happy with it for now. I changed all the Invocations into feats you can choose as you level up, and I laid out the whole 1-20 level chart that every class gets in the Core Rulebook.

Samurai's Warlock for Pathfinder 2e version 2.0