PFS legality clarification

[Benjamin Debrick]

I'm looking at the Mammoth Hide for my Cavalier. It is in Adventurer's Guide, Inner Sea Combat, and Melee Tactics Toolbox. And I have Melee Tactics Toolbox.

In the Additional resources document under...

Adventurer's Guide wrote:

Equipment: All equipment and magic items in this book are legal for play except the Aspis badge of last resort, branding iron, mantis blade, mask of the mantis, ring of retreat, rose knight's blade, and storm kindler's rod.

and

Melee Tactics Toolbox wrote:

Equipment: all equipment and magic items on pages 18-29 are legal for play, except arms of the marilith, exemplar weapon salve, Leng flail, and the growing weapon property;

but

Inner Sea Combat wrote:

all equipment and magic items on pages 50–63 are legal except backbreaker mail, crag linnorm plate, feather token, mammoth hide, numerian resistance plate, shadowbound chains, and imperial army greathelm.

And Archives of Nethys says it is PFS legal.

So if it listed as not legal in Inner Sea combat, do they just not list it in the others? Or did they reconsider on future publications and now it is legal? 2 say yes, 1 says no = majority rules
Because clearly Melee Tactics Toolbox is the book I have and it is legal out of it, right? ;-)

[Doug Hahn]

They're two different items.

The Mammoth Hide in Melee Tactics is 8,165 GP, is +2, and does 3d6 damage on a successful charge.

The Mammoth Hide in Inner Sea is 11,665 GP, is +3, and does 4d6 on a charge.

The AON item entry lists the wrong price and has the text for the illegal item from Inner Sea. Not sure what's going on with that. (As a note, just because AON has the little PFS icon next to it doesn't mean a PFS GM needs to accept it as legal — AON has made errors before. The Additional Resources is what you need, and if you're really worried print out the relevant section for your GM.)

Anyway, if you use the Melee Tactics item and own that PDF, you can use the item.

[Benjamin Debrick]

Excellent, that additional bit of information made me happy. I saw this right before playing PFS 5-03 last night, and promptly bought it and sold my breastplate that I had been wearing since level 1.

My little halfling now does 3d8+21+3d6 on a 2 handed charge with my lance because of spirited charge, belt of thunderous charge, and now Mammoth Armour. And I'm assuming the damage from the armour does not multiply on a crit.

On a side note, why would they have different stats/prices and name it the same thing? Why not just add a third type of charging armour, along with Rhino Hide armor?

[RealAlchemy]

Benjamin Debrick wrote:

Excellent, that additional bit of information made me happy. I saw this right before playing PFS 5-03 last night, and promptly bought it and sold my breastplate that I had been wearing since level 1.

My little halfling now does 3d8+21+3d6 on a 2 handed charge with my lance because of spirited charge, belt of thunderous charge, and now Mammoth Armour. And I'm assuming the damage from the armour does not multiply on a crit.

On a side note, why would they have different stats/prices and name it the same thing? Why not just add a third type of charging armour, along with Rhino Hide armor?

Not the first case of two items or item properties with identical names. I had a seeker character buy the dueling property on her weapon and I specified "The expensive one that gives the initiative bonus." And don't get me started on identical archetype names for different classes which do different things.

[Nefreet]

At a certain level of Bloat, new authors can't possibly be aware of every name that has come before them, and editors aren't 100%.

The instances of duplicity are rare, though. Maybe half a dozen in 10+ years of publication. They just get a lot of attention here in the Forums.