kind of an insane idea, but hear me out


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i like to play enormous characters, its an interesting challenge i think

so...i had the idea to try to make a character for some lvl20 one off games my and i friends play at times

I wanted to make a character about the size of Metroplex from transformers, he is appropriately called a Titan class transformer, he quite seriously turns into a small city, or a Star-destroyer sized star-ship the smallest i have seen him be would have had Optimus prime about ankle height to him
If you are familiar with him cool if not, hes massive, has massive weapons, and short of something like a meteor hitting him, he is almost unstoppable

Note i said size, or at least something like that, not actually the character
a balance of size and weapons would be cool

i was toying with the idea of an artificer Warforged that instead of building the Mech suit or golem outside himself, he just adds to his own body

kinda mystified as to how i would replicate missiles, a macro-cannon, and a MASER.....was thinking just oversized guns that shoot magic effects

any ideas would be helpful, as the artificer thing is literally a rough idea

big tanky brawler construct with some boom capablity, that probably turns into something, probably a gargantuan tank or static fortress


Something that size is outside PFs scale for characters or monsters. The largest thing it handles (other than simple terrain) is vehicles like ships which can be larger than even the largest monster. There are at least a couple of 3rd party ways of handling mechs though, one of them might suit you.

It is possible to possess objects in standard PF which can make for smaller mechs, see here.


avr wrote:

Something that size is outside PFs scale for characters or monsters. The largest thing it handles (other than simple terrain) is vehicles like ships which can be larger than even the largest monster. There are at least a couple of 3rd party ways of handling mechs though, one of them might suit you.

It is possible to possess objects in standard PF which can make for smaller mechs, see here.

so i guess after that would be just more or less possessing the mech like a warforged?

i didnt exactly mean something that big, more in the large-huge range


Sure, you can possess an object or construct up to large size with object possession, or up to gargantuan with greater object possession.
The whole line of those spells is on this page.

If the object or construct is hollow you can even be inside it while possessing it, mech pilot-style.


avr wrote:

Sure, you can possess an object or construct up to large size with object possession, or up to gargantuan with greater object possession.

The whole line of those spells is on this page.

If the object or construct is hollow you can even be inside it while possessing it, mech pilot-style.

holy s&@~ thats cool...

just saw loveXdeathXrobots
probably not viable, but could the possession work in reverse? the big mech killing machine is possessing the human looking droid body as a method of talking and properly using charisma based skills?

imma try to use the idea you just gave, but the reversal would be an interesting idea on its own

for the episode name
sonnie's edge
that was probably the coolest plot twist ever


There is a possession line of spells, or there's the old magic jar spell. Getting a mech the ability to cast them is going to be trickier; if they can get skills (use magic device) then in theory they could buy scrolls like an inverse of the suggestion in the mech pilot thread I linked. If they can't speak then perhaps an intelligent magic item which casts possession for them?


that is something imma work on, for now and android (apparently warforged are not a thing in pathfinder, but androids are) clockwork adept or sorcerer with the nanomachine bloodline

since the testing for the ideas will be done in lvl 20 one off games, i have a s*&*load of options, even a carrier type brawler golem with a particle cannon

or some other insane s#!*, idk, ill think of something crazy, ill post it here when i do test it


The biggest creature, that I'm aware of, is Oliphant of Jandelay, which stands several thousand feet fight. Another creature I can think of is the Aspodochelone, which is a whale the size of a small island. They're represented by having gigantic square spaces, much larger than 30', but playing something this big is going to require homebrewing.


Meant to say thousand feet high, not fight. Autocorrect is pretty bad.


Green Ronin's Advanced Bestiary has some templates that might be useful to mine for ideas (though probably not all of them at once?):

* Transforming Construct gives a construct one or more alternate shapes and movement modes.
* Lifespark Construct gives a mind and free will to a normally unintelligent construct. (Among other things, this means it can now advance via class levels. That's not explicit in the template, but is obvious from the sample creature in the original book, which has class levels.)
* Gigantean Creature will make any creature into a super-sized version of itself. (It's the most complicated of the three, because the base creature's HD get multiplied. It makes assigning the new CR a real challenge.)

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