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Can you Make an Impression (pg. 246) on animals? If so, should you use Nature instead of Diplomacy?
Secondly, if you're trying to Make an Impression where you don't speak the same language, or otherwise have some sort of disadvantage, would it be more appropriate to apply a penalty to the roll or increase the DC of the check?
You should use Pathfindr whenever you're trying to make an impression in Golarion.
Making an Impression on animals is a function of Wild Empathy for Rangers and Druids. Having that class feature allows you to make an impression using your Diplomacy with animals.
Additionally Gnomes have the ability through their Ancestry to gain a connection to animals and use their Diplomacy for making an impression with animals.
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Making an Impression on animals is a function of Wild Empathy for Rangers and Druids. Having that class feature allows you to make an impression using your Diplomacy with animals.
Additionally Gnomes have the ability through their Ancestry to gain a connection to animals and use their Diplomacy for making an impression with animals.
Thanks! If it's a class feature (or ancestry choice), then I'll rule other classes can't try it because it will diminish the capabilities of the other classes.
My current take is that there are no rules for improving a crewture’s attitude sand Wild Empathy or gnomes. As such, I don't think you can just roll Nature to make a hostile hear like you.
Instead, I think such things are expected to be handled through context rather than rolling dice. In one PF2 adventure, there are some indifferent animals that are wary of the PCs at first meeting. The only way you can improve their attitude as written is by feeding them some meat. This is contrasted later with some more intelligent beasts that you can win over with Diplomacy checks.
So I don't think you can make checks for this without Wild Empathy, but there might be ways you can make an animal like you without a check. Give meat then tummy rubs doesn't necessarily need dice.
. So I don't think you can make checks for this without Wild Empathy, but there might be ways you can make an animal like you without a check. Give meat then tummy rubs doesn't necessarily need dice.I would submit that the idea of using "tummy rubs" as the exact type of thing a Nature or Lore Wild Animals check could impart to the character.
YMMV.
In one PF2 adventure, there are some indifferent animals that are wary of the PCs at first meeting. The only way you can improve their attitude as written is by feeding them some meat. This is contrasted later with some more intelligent beasts that you can win over with Diplomacy checksI really hope GMs are still allowing Wild Empathy to work in these situations.
I actually had the exact same thought about check giving you the idea and posted it in the thread of the adventure in question. But my point is that this only works when those were viable solutions in the first place, not when you piss off a mother bear by touching her Cubs.