I am confused still On AC, The Iconics are not adding up...


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Okay I have read and reread the rules on AC and I thought I had it figured.

Proficiency = Level + 2,4,6, or 8 depending on skill level. Trained Level 1 is +3?

Now look at the Iconic Monk Sajan He has an 18 dexterity, Expert in unarmored skill, so If I do the math for him his ac = 10 + 4(dex) +6(proficiency) +0 item for a total of 20 Right?

So why is his Ac 19 on the pregen Iconic? Did I make an error or did the developers make an mistake?

2nd example) Seelah the paladin is wearing Scalemail(+4 item, +2 max dex) she has a dexterity of 12(+1). Her Ac= 10 + 3(trained proficiency) +3 item, +1 dex for a total of 17 correct??
Yet her Pregen character Sheet shows 18 AC. It is really messing with me, I was using the pregens to verify I understood certain rules, along with running my characters through Hero Lab online.

So am I as confused as I thought, or did someone else make a mistake?


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I'm not sure where you're getting +6 proficiency from? Expert is Level+4, or +5 for a first level character. +5 Proficiency + 4 DEX = 19 AC.


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Sajan 19 AC= 10 + 1(lvl) + 4(expert) + 4(dex)

Seelah 18 AC= 10 + 1(lvl) + 2(trained) +1(dex) +4(item)

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Sajan: it's +4 for proficiency, plus 1 for level 19 is correct.

Seelah - +4 for item, +1 for dex, +3 prof/level = 18


OldMangrump wrote:

Okay I have read and reread the rules on AC and I thought I had it figured.

Proficiency = Level + 2,4,6, or 8 depending on skill level. Trained Level 1 is +3?

Now look at the Iconic Monk Sajan He has an 18 dexterity, Expert in unarmored skill, so If I do the math for him his ac = 10 + 4(dex) +6(proficiency) +0 item for a total of 20 Right?

So why is his Ac 19 on the pregen Iconic? Did I make an error or did the developers make an mistake?

2nd example) Seelah the paladin is wearing Scalemail(+4 item, +2 max dex) she has a dexterity of 12(+1). Her Ac= 10 + 3(trained proficiency) +3 item, +1 dex for a total of 17 correct??
Yet her Pregen character Sheet shows 18 AC. It is really messing with me, I was using the pregens to verify I understood certain rules, along with running my characters through Hero Lab online.

So am I as confused as I thought, or did someone else make a mistake?

For Seelah in your example, it should go like this:

10 base + 4 item from scalemail + 3 proficiency (trained + level) + 1 dex of 12 = 18

Your math was off as you only give scalemail a +3 bonus instead of +4.


Kyrone wrote:

Sajan 19 AC= 10 + 1(lvl) + 4(expert) + 4(dex)

Seelah 18 AC= 10 + 1(lvl) + 2(trained) +1(dex) +4(item)

You guys are right added the level bonus twice in my head for some reason on Sajan.

However I was correct with Seelah. You are all adding +4 item bonus, however her armor is Scalemail which on page 275 states + 3 item bonus, and +2 dex cap.

How are you guys getting the +4 item bonus?

Now Valeros Has a breastplate at lv 1 so that is a +4 item bonus and +1 dex cap.

If I am missing something please explain, after all I screwed up the monk...

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