Movement / Running / Hustle Questions


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The only rule I've been able to find that covers running is "Hustle", which can be used during exploration, and allows movement at double base speed.

Question 1: Is this the case, or is there something else I'm missing?

A riding horse's base speed is 35 feet. A riding horse can gallop. (Strides twice. It has a +10 foot circumstance bonus to its speed during these strides.) With two actions, this gives a riding horse a potential speed of 70 feet.

Question 2: Is the +10 foot bonus added to each stride, which would make the final speed 90 feet, or is it added once, which would make it 80 feet?

Question 3: Can the horse Hustle while it's Galloping, doubling its speed from 80 to 160 (or 90 to 180)?

In the Bestiary, large cats (leopard, lion and tiger) have a base speed of 30. I don't see anything in their descriptions about any kind of speed boosts.

Question 4: Does this mean that if these cats Hustle, their maximum speed is 60 (6 mph)?

Question 5: Can people and creatures run during encounters, or can they only hustle during exploration?

I apologize if I'm missing obvious things there, and thank you in advance.

Grand Lodge

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Hustle calls out "Exploration" trait it is meant for over land travel as the time frame discussed is in minutes. I am thinking it does not apply in an Encounter.

It is not called out specifically that I can find, but using all 3 actions in a turn to "Stride" would allow you to move 3 times for speed...in essence a run.

My guess is preserve the action action economy and simplify by not have circumstance penalties for running. It is a simplification and way more flexible in my opinion

Exo-Guardians

Q1&Q2: Riding Horses and War Horses both have a base speed o 40'. (Ponies have 35'.) So a Horse can spend 1/2/3 actions Striding to move 40'/80'/120' in a round. If it Gallops instead, it gets a +10' bonus to its Speed and Strides twice, for a total of [(40+10)+(40+10)] = 100' of movement with two actions; if it then uses its third action to Stride again (at normal speed), it moves a total of 140' in the turn. That's a Horse's maximum speed.

Q3: Hustle is an Exploration action, it's not meant to be used in combat.

Q4: not sure

Q5: "Run" isn't an action in PF2; using all three actions to Stride essentially represents running in combat.

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