Hey all
I am completely new to pathfinder and will be running my first 2E game this Friday but I'm working on a homebrew setting and will be doing a few homebrew Ancestries. I've not included much information as I'm still working on full details but I'd love some feedback for what I've done so far.
6
Size
Small
Speed
30
Ability Boosts
Dexterity
Charisma
Free
Ability Flaw
Constitution
Languages
Common
Gyokan
Sylvan
Additional Languages equal to your intelligence modifier.
Traits
Gyokutan
Humanoid
Low-Light Vision
You can see in dim light as though it were bright light, so you ignore the concealed condition due to dim light.
Gyokuto Heritages
Cherry Gyokuto
You have explored the deep forests and woodlands of the world, learning its secrets and how these areas of the world operate. You get a +2 circumstance bonus on Survival checks while in a forest or wooded area.
Plains Gyokuto
Spending time out in the open fields, your legs have gotten stronger and have helped you when fleeing from unwanted danger. You gain a foot unarmed attack that deals 1d4 bludgeoning damage. Your feet are in the brawling group and have the finesse and unarmed traits.
Mountain Gyokuto
Your family lived in the mountains and travelled to its tallest peaks with relative ease, you also joined them in their journey’s to these peaks. When climbing using a climbing kit you don’t take the movement penalty and can move using your full speed.
Snow Drop Gyokuto
You have grown used to the frigid cold of the snowfields and ice caps, resulting in thicker fur compared to other Gyokuto, granting you cold resistance equal to half your level (Minimum 1). You treat environmental cold effects as if they were one step less extreme.
Oasis Gyokuto
You have spent most of your life in deserts and have thinner fur compared to other Gyokuta keeping you cooler in extreme heat, granting you heat resistance equal to half your level (Minimum 1). You treat environmental heat effects as if they were one step less extreme.
Thank you
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Hey all
I am completely new to pathfinder and will be running my first 2E game this Friday but I'm working on a homebrew setting and will be doing a few homebrew Ancestries. I've not included much information as I'm still working on full details but I'd love some feedback for what I've done so far.** spoiler omitted **...
That looks pretty good. For the plains you may want to say that you get training proficiency in the unarmed attack. Maybe an automatic increase to expert at some point.
I have acted upon the feedback and have started working on the 1st Level Feats, any feedback for them would be great. Some background for Gyokuto, they are rabbit folk who have a lover of tinkering with machinery but also love the natural world and are a cautious race. I'd be interested in seeing how my feats hold up.
6
Size
Small
Speed
30
Ability Boosts
Dexterity
Charisma
Free
Ability Flaw
Constitution
Languages
Common
Gyokan
Sylvan
Additional Languages equal to your intelligence modifier.
Traits
Gyokutan
Humanoid
Low-Light Vision
You can see in dim light as though it were bright light, so you ignore the concealed condition due to dim light.
Gyokuto Heritages
Cherry Gyokuto
You have explored the deep forests and woodlands of the world, learning its secrets and how these areas of the world operate. You get a +2 circumstance bonus on Survival checks while in a forest or wooded area.
Plains Gyokuto
Spending time out in the open fields, your legs have gotten stronger and have helped you when fleeing from unwanted danger. You are trained in unarmed attacks starting at 1st Level and upon reaching 7th Level become expert un unarmed attacks.
Mountain Gyokuto
Your family lived in the mountains and travelled to its tallest peaks with relative ease, you also joined them in their journey to these peaks. When climbing using a climbing kit you don’t take the movement penalty and can move using your full speed.
Snow Drop Gyokuto
You have grown used to the frigid cold of the snowfields and ice caps, resulting in thicker fur compared to other Gyokuto, granting you cold resistance equal to half your level (Minimum 1). You treat environmental cold effects as if they were one step less extreme.
Oasis Gyokuto
You have spent most of your life in deserts and have thinner fur compared to other Gyokuta keeping you cooler in extreme heat, granting you heat resistance equal to half your level (Minimum 1). You treat environmental heat effects as if they were one step less extreme.
Ancestry Feats
Follows same ancestry rules as other races.
1ST LEVEL
Gyokuto Lore [Feat 1]
You spent time learning the history of your people, learning the old ways and how they have changed as new ages of technology came to be. You gain the trained proficiency rank in Crafting and Athletics. If you would otherwise become trained in either of these skills (from background or class) you instead become trained in a skill of your choice. You also become trained in Gyokuto Lore.
Gyokuto Weapon Familiarity [Feat 1]
Your den have trained you to be familiar with graceful weapons which you prefer over blunt weapons. You are trained in Shortsword, Rapier and Main-Gauche. You also gain access to all uncommon Gyokuto weapons, for the purpose of determining your proficiency, martial Gyokuto weapons are simple and advanced Gyokuto weapons are martial weapons.
Cover of Night [Feat 1]
Being used to wandering you learned of the dangers of camping at night and have taken caution when setting up a campsite out in the wilds. When setting up camp for the night or in a cave you can add a +2 circumstance bonus to blending in with the background to hide your camp.
Natural Ingredients Only Please [Feat 1]
Though many Gyokuto like machinery and tinkering they also love nature, you’re no different and when making anything from natural resources you can get double the amount of items from the same crafting roll.
Danger Sense [Feat 1]
You are always on high alert and always looking out for something that could easily make you a meal or kill you. Whenever you make a perception check using smell or hearing add a +3 circumstance bonus to the roll. Always best to be careful.
Guidance of the Moon [Feat 1]
You feel a connection to the moon and reach out to it every night for guidance, due to this personal connection you share you gain one cantrip from the Primal spell list {Page 314} you can cast this spell as a primal innate spell at will. A cantrip is heightened to a spell level equal to half your level rounded up.
I'm going to disagree with Omni - I don't think a heritage should give you expert proficiency automatically. Consider for example that this means a Gokuto wizard gains expert unarmed a full 6 levels earlier than normal, which is a huge boost. It also doesn't need to grant trained proficiency, because everyone is trained in unarmed attacks. A better point of reference is the razortooth goblin heritage.
I would instead handle progression from there with ancestry feats, like ancestral weapons.
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I'm going to disagree with Omni - I don't think a heritage should give you expert proficiency automatically. Consider for example that this means a Gokuto wizard gains expert unarmed a full 6 levels earlier than normal, which is a huge boost. It also doesn't need to grant trained proficiency, because everyone is trained in unarmed attacks. A better point of reference is the razortooth goblin heritage.
I would instead handle progression from there with ancestry feats, like ancestral weapons.
Yeah, your right. I don't know what I was thinking when I wrote my original comment. Probably because I was getting familiar with the new book. The Razortooth is a good reference for balancing that ability. I herby withdraw my previous suggestion.
I also realized belatedly that you don't need ancestry feats for progression, either - all classes either gain or are supposed to gain, post errata, unarmed proficiency at the same rate as simple proficiency.
I have spent a few days working on the last few bits needed for a completed Ancestry. Please let me know of any changes you think are needed. I am still trying to get used to Pathfinder and all its intricacies. I tried to make the race as neutral as possible even though this is made for a homebrew world.
I hope you enjoy my race of Gyokuto aka Rabbitfolk coming in at a little over 4ft thanks to their ears, they have various fur colours with emblazoned colourful runes that weave throughout the fur. They love tinkering and crafting, love nature and are always finding new ways for tech and nature to work together in harmony. [Lore is still being worked on]
Here is the latest version with all feats, let me know of any changes, feedback, criticism, heck rate it out of 5 as well.
6
Size
Small
Speed
30
Ability Boosts
Dexterity
Charisma
Free
Ability Flaw
Constitution
Languages
Common
Gyokan
Sylvan
Additional Languages equal to your intelligence modifier.
Traits
Gyokutan
Humanoid
Low-Light Vision
You can see in dim light as though it were bright light, so you ignore the concealed condition due to dim light.
Gyokuto Heritages
Cherry Gyokuto
You have explored the deep forests and woodlands of the world, learning its secrets and how these areas of the world operate. You get a +2 circumstance bonus on Survival checks while in a forest or wooded area.
Plains Gyokuto
Spending time out in the open fields, your legs have gotten stronger and have helped you when fleeing from unwanted danger. You gain a foot unarmed attack that deals 1d6 bludgeoning damage. Your feet are in the brawling group and have the finesse and unarmed traits.
Mountain Gyokuto
Your family lived in the mountains and travelled to its tallest peaks with relative ease, you also joined them in their journey to these peaks. When climbing using a climbing kit you don’t take the movement penalty and can move using your full speed.
Snow Drop Gyokuto
You have grown used to the frigid cold of the snowfields and ice caps, resulting in thicker fur compared to other Gyokuto, granting you cold resistance equal to half your level (Minimum 1). You treat environmental cold effects as if they were one step less extreme.
Oasis Gyokuto
You have spent most of your life in deserts and have thinner fur compared to other Gyokuta keeping you cooler in extreme heat, granting you heat resistance equal to half your level (Minimum 1). You treat environmental heat effects as if they were one step less extreme.
Ancestry Feats
Follows same ancestry rules as other races.
1ST LEVEL
Gyokuto Lore [Feat 1]
You spent time learning the history of your people, learning the old ways and how they have changed as new ages of technology came to be. You gain the trained proficiency rank in Crafting and Athletics. If you would otherwise become trained in either of these skills (from background or class) you instead become trained in a skill of your choice. You also become trained in Gyokuto Lore.
Gyokuto Weapon Familiarity [Feat 1]
Your den have trained you to be familiar with graceful weapons which you prefer over blunt weapons. You are trained in Katana, Longbow and Nagamaki. You also gain access to all uncommon Gyokuto weapons, for the purpose of determining your proficiency, martial Gyokuto weapons are simple and advanced Gyokuto weapons are martial weapons.
Cover of Night [Feat 1]
Being used to wandering you learned of the dangers of camping at night and have taken caution when setting up a campsite out in the wilds. When setting up camp for the night or in a cave you can add a +2 circumstance bonus to blending in with the background to hide your camp.
Natural Ingredients Only Please [Feat 1]
Though many Gyokuto like machinery and tinkering they also love nature, you’re no different. When making anything that requires natural resources you can add a +2 circumstance bonus to the crafting roll.
Danger Sense [Feat 1]
You are always on high alert and always looking out for something that could easily make you a meal or kill you. Whenever you make a perception check using smell or hearing add a +3 circumstance bonus to the roll. Always best to be careful.
Guidance of the Moon [Feat 1]
You feel a connection to the moon and reach out to it every night for guidance, due to this personal connection you share you gain one cantrip from the Primal spell list {Page 314} you can cast this spell as a primal innate spell at will. A cantrip is heightened to a spell level equal to half your level rounded up.
5th Level
Grace of a Rabbit [Feat 5]
Prerequisites Gyokuto Weapon Familiarity
You can handle yourself competently with your people’s favoured weapons. Whenever you critically succeed at an attack role using a Katana, Longbow or Nagamaki or Gyokuto weapon, you apply the weapons critical specialization effect.
Disengaging Flip {2 Actions} [Feat 5]
You leap backwards 10ft to get some distance between you and an enemy, doing this will not prompt opportunity attacks from any creature nearby and within reach to attack you.
9th Level
Natural Remedies Are Best [Feat 9]
Prerequisites Natural Ingredients Only Please
When creating potions you can add your intelligence modifier to increase damage dealt by a potion or healing done by a potion.
Gift of Lunar Glint [Feat 9]
You have spent so much time under the moon and within deep caves that a natural gift within your eyes has awoken. You gain darkvision and materials such as natural herbs or minerals have a faint glint around them only you can see.
13th Level
Gyokuto Weapon Expertise [Feat 13]
Prerequisites Gyokuto Weapon Familiarity
Your affinity for Gyokuto weaponry has become second nature along with your class training. Whenever a class feature grants you expert or greater proficiency in a given weapon or weapons, you also gain that proficiency in the Katana, Longbow and Nagamaki and all Gyokuto weapons in which you are proficient.
Gift Of Bright Lunar Glint [Feat 13]
Prerequisites Gift of Lunar Glint
You have fully grown used to living under the light of the moon, your eyes have become pale white beacons in the dark. You gain Greater Darkvision and the faint glint surrounding materials is now a bright source of light to you allowing you to find them easier.
Gyokuto Advanced Weapons
Nagamaki - 4gp - 1d8 S - Bulk 2 - Hands 2 - Polearm - Deadly d10, Reach, Gyokuto, Forceful
A few suggestions:
By the book, the scent part of Danger Sense won't really come up as gyokuto don't have scent, so they can't pinpoint creatures by smell (although maybe you could make a perception check to detect poison in food or something? Idk) You could also give them imprecise scent with the feat, so that it has more utility (this would allow for example detecting an invisible creature in a noisy environment). See page 464-465 for more info. Besides that, a +3 bonus to perception is quite strong, especially at 1st level, as that's a bonus to initiative (easy to fluff any initiative roll as a hearing check) , so maybe take that bonus down to a +1 or 2 at the most.
Disengaging Flip doesn't give any mechanical benefit over taking two Step actions. Compare to Elf Step, which does the same for one action (but doesn't come until 9th level). Maybe change the flip to increase the distance to 15 feet?
I would attach some numbers to Gift of Lunar Glint and the Bright version's benefits to finding natural materials, such as a bonus to Survival or Nature to find such materials.
Overall a very nice concept. Good job!