PFS2 Allowed Deities - No Eldest?


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I’ve noticed that the Core Rulebook doesn’t list the Eldest. No worries. No doubt that’s in the works for a future book. BUT, the PFS2 Guide only allows deities listed in the Core Rulebook, starting page 437. And the list of Domains is pretty thin, compared to previously. I could kitbash a Cleric of The Lantern King, but out of his four domains, only the Trickery domain is in the Core Rulebook. Can Allowed Character Options include deities from previous PFS1 allowed content?

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Nothing about PFS1 is allowed in PFS2. If it's not printed for PFS2, it's not a legal option.

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That said, we're expecting the Lost Omens Gods & Magic book sometime in February 2020. There's a chance it MIGHT include Eldest, so you may not have to wait long if you're open to holding off on the concept for now.

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bdk86 wrote:

That said, we're expecting the Lost Omens Gods & Magic book sometime in February 2020. There's a chance it MIGHT include Eldest, so you may not have to wait long if you're open to holding off on the concept for now.

I figured the same. Just frustrating when you've got a concept but can't play it. Instead, you have to create your 2nd, 3rd or 4th choice idea and feel "meh".

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There's plenty of character options that have dropped off for 2e; we can't expect 10+ years of content development to be available right away. For example, I have character concepts I'm sitting on for classes that haven't been introduced (at least not yet), so they are on the back-burner waiting for more releases.

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There may be a brief deity list in the Age of Lost Omens Guide.

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My first character is a worshipper of Thulvix who will at least try to get you to believe he is a worshipper a Chaldira Zuzaristan, but since I'm not a cleric it doesn't matter that neither is in the core rulebook (though I am almost surprised Chaldira isn't at least in the guild guide given 10-99...)

That said, I totally feel your pain. The one big downside of the rules changing but the world not is that many many of your ideas will undoubtedly be better served later.

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Just a bit of pedantry, but the Guide defines Worship as something you get mechanical benefit from. The term they use for non-mechancal adoration of a deity is Revere. I would maybe not have made that distinction, but it's there, and at the moment my druid holds Gozreh in reverence.


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William Ronald wrote:
There may be a brief deity list in the Age of Lost Omens Guide.

If you mean the World Guide, I doubt it. They already gave a brief deity list of the 20 core deities in the Core Rulebook. And we already know that Lost Omens Gods and Magic will have a far more comprehensive deity list.

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Some quotes from the Pathfinder Society Guide to Play for context:

"Revere: Player characters can revere any Golarion-specific deity, pantheon, or philosophy without alignment restriction. This extends to evil deities as well, so long as the PC does not participate in or glorify activities that violate the Pathfinder Baseline or otherwise incur an alignment infraction (see Pathfinder Core Rulebook 486 and Infamy and Alignment Infractions)."

"Worship: In Organized Play, worship refers to a relationship between a character and a deity where the character gains a mechanical benefit (e.g., a cleric’s spells and abilities or access to options tied to that deity) in exchange for their dedicated worship. A PC may worship only one deity and must choose a deity that accepts worshippers of their alignment. However, the PC cannot participate in or glorify activities that violate the Pathfinder baseline or otherwise incur an alignment infraction (see Pathfinder Core Rulebook 486 and Infamy and Alignment Infractions)."

The goal of this distinction is to offer a broad range of character belief and expression while remaining consistent with published information about which types of believers each deity is willing to grant power to.

Your PCs can revere deities and philosophies that haven't shown up in Second Edition products yet. So you can have your character be a follower of any of the Eldest (but they can't use revering an evil Eldest as a reason to have their character engage in behavior that is inappropriate for the table). Until we've published key mechanics like what alignments are required to gain power from a deity and which of the new domains they have, characters can't worship them as defined above. But the list in Lost Omens Gods and Magic is quite extensive, so there will be many more options for deities for your clerics in the near future.

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