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Didn't see a thread for this. So here's one.
Tom Hiddleston Drops Some Hints About ‘Loki’ On Disney+
Not much in the way of real hints, but I guess it's a start.
Still think this might be akin to "Loki Agent of Asgard" kind of deal...but we'll see.
Well when you're a trickster god, smiling is a huge part of selling it.
Also still kind of stand with Loki, Agent of Asgard with some hints of things.
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For those who don't like waiting for every Friday for a new episode I have some good news! Not only has Disney+ moved up the release date, but now you don't have to worry about your Friday plans for 6 weeks in a row. Instead you can wait for every Wednesday for new episodes! New release date is Wed June 9th!
Since bringing up old characters has been a thing with Marvel recently, some thing I would like to see is the real old Norse lore brought up. Such as when Loki had poison dripped on his face because he killed his son.
"Did you actually turn yourself into a flea and have sex with your sister?"
Philip,
I doubt that will appear in the MCU (The Flea thing. The poison thing MIGHT occur...but who knows?)
Joel,
Yep, good news for me! Now I just need to find a way to stream it...
eric,
Probably about as much as any of the movies and/or TV shows...
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My first introduction to the TVA was waaaayyy back in FF, when they introduced the Mobius character. I was never a big fan of the idea, but thought the writers made it work at the time.
Same here.
All in all, the first episode was interesting. I look forward to seeing where it goes. And I’m intrigued to find out….
My first introduction to the TVA was waaaayyy back in FF, when they introduced the Mobius character. I was never a big fan of the idea, but thought the writers made it work at the time.
Same here.
All in all, the first episode was interesting. I look forward to seeing where it goes. And I’m intrigued to find out….
** spoiler omitted **
Cat Loki
I don't really care for Loki (I respect him as a villain and one of Marvel's few well-written ones, but for whatever reason he just doesn't jibe with me). I thought his death in Infinity War was really cool and earned and felt annoyed when they had him essentially resurrected in Endgame. At the same time I don't hate him and don't mind watching him for a bit. And moreover what I do love is the concept of the TVA and shenanigans resulting from multiversal/alternate reality nonsense. Should I check this out?
Well speaking as a guy that enjoys alternate realties and variant timelines, I think you should give a shot, DQ.
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Should I check this out?
Yeah, I think so. Yes, it's Loki focused, but the first episode is just as much about the TVA as it is about Loki. It's probably obvious, but this is Loki when he was still solidly a villain, without the heroic character growth we've seen in Endgame and the Thor movies.
I think that this series can open the door for alternate reality shenanigans, which is probably relevant to the MCU's forthcoming What If? series.
Owen Wilson and Wunmi Mosaku really sell their roles. I thought they were great.
Another thing that I appreciated is that nearly all the scenes we've seen in the trailers are in the first episode, so there's very few spoilers (to date) for future episodes.
Also, can we talk about the musical score as well? Its moody, even a tad morose, and along with the lighting of most shots really helps set a weird tone for the show.
Good call. I commented to my wife that I liked the TVA's depressing 70s office vibe.
Okay, thanks all. Did watch it and there is a lot that is fun there. I don't know why I like the whole time agent bureaucracy thing even if I feel like I've seen the concept before elsewhere, but of course the Marvel details and production values just make it all super fun. Will definitely try to follow for a bit.
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Okay, thanks all. Did watch it and there is a lot that is fun there. I don't know why I like the whole time agent bureaucracy thing even if I feel like I've seen the concept before elsewhere, but of course the Marvel details and production values just make it all super fun. Will definitely try to follow for a bit.
Perhaps the funky-60s set decor reminded you of Legion?
It might be that, PDK. Regardless I like this version of the TVA better than the comics one.
Okay, thanks all. Did watch it and there is a lot that is fun there. I don't know why I like the whole time agent bureaucracy thing even if I feel like I've seen the concept before elsewhere, but of course the Marvel details and production values just make it all super fun. Will definitely try to follow for a bit.Perhaps the funky-60s set decor reminded you of Legion?
Nope, never watched Legion.
The obvious possible reference is the Time Bureau on Legends of Tomorrow but I think I'm also vaguely remembering something Douglas Adamsian.
I think it's also reminding me of Accounting and some of the other Afterlife locations on "The Good Place." Also definitely a 70s vibe there, especially with Janet's outfits (and all the green-on-black computer screens). That isn't a show about time travel, although time travel and memory rewriting happens on it.
That or there was a Variant me and I'm having my own shadow-memory of the TVA. ;)
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My favorite part was the office worker asking if Loki was "the guy in the blue box?".
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He asked if he was the guy with the blue box, referring to the Tesseract that he had taken from him in their earlier scene.
Even so, Dirtypool, it's also a subtle nod to Doctor Who...
Even so, Dirtypool, it's also a subtle nod to Doctor Who...
I’d agree with that if a.) the character had said “in” rather than “with” and b.) the character referring to the blue box that is the Tesseract wasn’t the same character who had taken possession of the blue box earlier in the episode.
If you’re looking for references you can turn almost anything into one.
Dirtypool,
Fair point.
Even so, Dirtypool, it's also a subtle nod to Doctor Who...
I've read commentary from fans online who are taking the way the comment was worded as a little nod to Doctor Who as well. Intended or no, it's a cute way of thinking about it, especially given the 70s UNIT-esque backdrop.
As I'd mentioned The Good Place earlier, I realized on rewatching a scene that the guy who confiscates the items was an actor on that, as one of Jason's posse. (And if y'all haven't seen The Good Place, holy cow, go get on that.)
The 70's retro-future office of the TVA bears little to no resemblance to any of the standing sets used for UNIT HQ which were always presented as mundane office spaces and laboratories that were all themselves slightly out of date. The decor of UNIT in the Who of the 70's was vaguely late 50's/early 60's pastiche.
Sometimes a cigar, is just a cigar.
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Nope, never watched Legion.Okay, thanks all. Did watch it and there is a lot that is fun there. I don't know why I like the whole time agent bureaucracy thing even if I feel like I've seen the concept before elsewhere, but of course the Marvel details and production values just make it all super fun. Will definitely try to follow for a bit.Perhaps the funky-60s set decor reminded you of Legion?
O_O !!!! !!!! you must!!!
Dirtypool,
And sometimes, the cigar is an explosive device. But you might be right regardless.
DQ,
Interesting tidbit/Easter egg you found.
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Even so, Dirtypool, it's also a subtle nod to Doctor Who...I've read commentary from fans online who are taking the way the comment was worded as a little nod to Doctor Who as well. Intended or no, it's a cute way of thinking about it, especially given the 70s UNIT-esque backdrop.
As I'd mentioned The Good Place earlier, I realized on rewatching a scene that the guy who confiscates the items was an actor on that, as one of Jason's posse. (And if y'all haven't seen The Good Place, holy cow, go get on that.)
The Good Place is a great show!
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Interesting for me is how Mobius said "I've studied almost every moment of your entire life". So, he knows everything about Loki's life and still he treats him better that Loki's family.
Loki admits to most of his identity being a facade. If Mobius really knew Loki as completely as he claims he did, then Mobius had a clearer picture of the REAL Loki than Odin or Thor ever got to see. Frigga came closer to knowing her son, she's the only one who saw any real tenderness from Loki.
It makes sense that Mobius would treat Loki better than the family had, he knew who he was dealing with in an honest way that they didn't.
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On the identity of the variant...
Nando V Movies has some interesting discussion in his latest video
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Well, that was....interesting. I suppose.
I'm not typically a fan of Owen Wilson, but he's growing on me in this. And he seems to really work well with Tom Hiddleston, who is (of course) magnificent as always in the role.
I'm not sure where they're going with this, but I'm starting to wonder if it's going to bleed over into the rest of the MCU. Kind of another aspect of the whole "Multiverse of Madness" in the title of the next Doctor Strange movie.
I certainly hope whatever plan Chick Loki (Cloki?) is going to affect the entire MCU going forward, otherwise it would be such a waste.
Although, I'm kind of wondering if she's maybe working for Kang, since we know he's going to be making an appearance in the MCU.
I thought I recognized another of the TVA agents as the psychic chick who helped out Hellboy on that most recent movie.
With regards to the variant, I think we need to call that one by the L word instead of the C word. Mostly because it's more elegant.
As for what the variant wants, I think it mostly wants to foment as much chaos as possible and/or kill the Time Keepers.
I also don't think Kang is involved. Mostly because this doesn't feel like a Kang plan.
I have to admit I was struggling to follow along by the end. And I usually like complex machinations and trying to see the weird little details in dialoge. But the dialogue seemed to be so much hinting to hinting to hinting to something else it crossed the line from "intriguing mystery" to "this is just frustratingly annoying" for me personally.
I do like Mobius.
Loved the depiction of the dreary corporate future of Roxxcart (and the references to Roxxon that involves, as Roxxon is one of the few Marvel entities that's gotten mentions across film and TV).
I don't know a lot of cosmic-level Marvel lore (DC or Marvel I tend to prefer street level stuff, with rarish exceptions), so I am out of my depth here--but it's kind of nice NOT to have any idea of what's coming. (This said, I do know who Kang is and why people are expecting him. I did read the recent run of Exiles a few years ago so I do know some of the universe's time travel/cosmic folk, not just extremely well.)
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Loved the 2nd episode, especially that they didn't hold off until the final episode for things to go boom and shake up the status quo they just introduced with the TVA. Having the majority of the series to deal with the chaos and destruction will be good and give the topic the time (see what I did there) it deserves.
And while I'm not much into deep Marvel lore, I'm pretty sure the name of the variant is Lady Loki in the comics.
I could have done with fewer research scenes, but otherwise I enjoyed the episode.
Lady Loki is indeed the correct appellation
It's the MCU, so they could be mixing and matching - or it could be they're going full on with Sylvie
Loki, in world, did prefer to be called Lady Loki while in female form.
TECHNICALLY, dirtypool, your conflating The Enchantress/Sylvie with Loki who stole Sif's body and made it his own. But you're not far off in my view of calling her LADY Loki so as to differentiate her from 'our' Loki. Also you're right about who gave Sylvie her powers.
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I'm not sure where they're going with this
My theory is that it will be a lead to the comics' incursion / contraction / Fantastic Four plotline; that, or the perfect way to reset the MCU since Downey Jr. and some of the others are getting a bit older (and I think Downey mentioned he was done with Tony Stark).