Thunder Behemoth and store an item


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Hello,

a thunder behemoth has the following abily :

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Rock Spitting (Ex) A thunder behemoth can spit rocks from the essentially inexhaustible store in its gizzard. It can spit up to four rocks as a standard action, with a range increment of 60 feet. A creature that is critically hit by one of these rocks must make a DC 38 Fortitude save to resist being stunned for 1 round. The save DC is Strength-based.

Is it possible to store an item in its gizzard ? No damage on its object. It is in a gizzard, not in the stomach, is it right ?

For example, an canvas of a painting.

Same question with :

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Preserve (Ex) An ambergrim can preserve a creature paralyzed by its swallow whole ability by spending 1 hour motionless to harden the soft resin shell into a gemlike case. A creature can attempt a DC 21 Fortitude saving throw at the end of the hour-long process to avoid being preserved; if successful, it remains entangled, but the ambergrim must start the process anew to preserve the creature. Dead and nonliving materials are preserved as if under the effects of an unguent of timelessness. Living creatures are held in stasis, unable to move and no longer needing to eat, drink, or breathe. A living creature can survive in this state for 1 day for each point of Constitution it has, after which it suffocates but remains preserved indefinitely as if by a gentle repose spell. Each day, a preserved creature can attempt a Strength check (DC = 10 + the ambergrim’s Constitution modifier) to break free of the amber shell. The shell has hardness 8 and 20 hit points; submerging it in strong alcohol for 1 hour can also dissolve the shell.

Swallow Whole (Ex) An ambergrim can use its swallow whole ability to swallow a creature of its own size category (usually Medium) or smaller. A swallowed creature is entangled, but instead of the Dexterity penalty normally imposed by the entangled condition, it takes a cumulative –1d6 penalty to its Dexterity score each round as the ambergrim coats it in thick resin. If this penalty exceeds the creature’s Dexterity score, it is paralyzed until the resin is removed.

Thanks for your future answer.


my computer's dictionary entry for gizzard wrote:
1. (Anat.) The second, or true, muscular stomach of birds, in which the food is crushed and ground, after being softened in the glandular stomach (crop), or lower part of the esophagus; the gigerium.

If you managed to get an object into the gizzard, it would be constantly battered and abused by those rocks---that's the whole point of a gizzard. A painting wouldn't stand a chance.

OTOH the ambergrim sounds like it would swallow a painting and preserve it nicely (maybe with a bit of drool on it).

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I "love" when the Developers forgot that being paralyzed give you an effective strength score of 0.

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Paralyzed: A paralyzed character is frozen in place and unable to move or act. A paralyzed character has effective Dexterity and Strength scores of 0 and is helpless, but can take purely mental actions. A winged creature flying in the air at the time that it becomes paralyzed cannot flap its wings and falls. A paralyzed swimmer can’t swim and may drown. A creature can move through a space occupied by a paralyzed creature—ally or not. Each square occupied by a paralyzed creature, however, counts as 2 squares to move through.

I think that the RAI is that the check is made with the full strength bonus, but RAW says "with a strength score of 0".


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If you managed to get an object into the gizzard, it would be constantly battered and abused by those rocks---that's the whole point of a gizzard. A painting wouldn't stand a chance.

And so if there aren't rocks in the gizzard, won't the canvas be safe ?


Waldham wrote:
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If you managed to get an object into the gizzard, it would be constantly battered and abused by those rocks---that's the whole point of a gizzard. A painting wouldn't stand a chance.
And so if there aren't rocks in the gizzard, won't the canvas be safe ?

Sure, that seems reasonable. But w/o the gizzard rocks the critter can't digest food properly, so you'd better get it a ring of sustenance (presumably on a hand of glory) or a clear spindle ioun stone, so that it doesn't need to eat.

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