| ImmortaliseMe |
I am creating a new character - a half giant metaforge
I mostly want to run him as a strength based melee tank with 2H bill polearm
as i was reading through the soulknife stuff i ran across the armoured blade and wondered if the armour would stack with aegis armour, or whether it would be a total waste of time having it because they wouldn't play well together.
at the moment i'm building the character to jump into a lev 4 campaign, so will only have soulknife 2 and aegis 2 and probably going on a campaign heavy on undead and demons (lots of stuff needs silver/magic/cold iron) to kill.
any other advice people want to throw to me will be much appreciated.
| Roonfizzle Garnackle |
The following is my opinion.
I do NOT think they work well together ... but, depending on what sort of game I had in mind, AND the powerscale of the party, I'd be likely to allow them to play nice WITH levels in Metaforge (as you intend to take).
My major issues are as follows: Both give an Armor that functions similarly to each other, but are distinct in what they DO and their functional equivalencies, and what their purpose is.
I think ... it might, however, be more of a headache to figure out what exactly you reap, vs what you trade out, than it's worth.
(Caveats - I'm a major fan of Aegis, but have never had Soulknife make me go !!)
So ... Ask your DM for their opinion! (Because at the end of the day, it's theirs that REALLY matters on this.)
Things I like about Aegis, are it's sheer customization options, like 3rd, you can Harness Power Stones, and suddenly, you are whatever Psionic Caster you want to be in a given day (within limits, like ML 1 until 7th, and gold/availability of stones). Or 5th, when Flight opens up as an option.
Speaking of Flight, that's frequently a hot button topic, so I'd specifically make sure to clear it with your DM if you plan on taking it.
| ImmortaliseMe |
thanks for that. i'm not really as interested in flight, my intent is to go warhulk with the juggernaut armor and a 2H polearm and go for melee striking and maybe go for some reached tripping and attack of opportunity stuff. I like the idea that a half giant is able to create a 2H mindblade sized for a large creature.
I have used a no-dips 2H soulknife cutthroat and set my self up to use a 2H weapon for sneak attacks on a DEX based skill-monkey ophiduan working as a detective. He was a bit of a glass canon, but boy was he scary in combat. I spent a lot of loot on getting ioun stones surgically implanted and made a lot of use of a hat of disguise.
I've been trying to figure out whether it works out to be worth the effort to multi-class between warhulk and soulknife or if i should just go with armoured soulknife and not do any level dips. not sure which gets me a scarier heavy tank.
| ImmortaliseMe |
okay, so half giant war hulk has to take heavy armor option, so i couldn't go with astral skin unless i switched there, but probably not going to gain anything by running them together. still not sure if i gain much by multiclassing over choosing to go with armoured blade and take no dips. it would mean i don't get to go metaforge, but i need to spend more time looking at the two outcomes for comparison.
| ImmortaliseMe |
yeah, i guess i was coming to that conclusion. I've played a lot of dex build characters with lots of flexibility and skills and found this idea while i was toying with a power attack 2H build.
i made up a couple of clone sheets to see what the same character looks like at lev 4 and 5 (which is most likely where our group will be when i introduce this character.
half giant with maxed out STR and a 2H weapon gets me very nice attack bonus and damage of a large sized weapon.
if i go with armoured blade and take improved armour bladeskill i get equivalent of masterwork full plate. (i wondered is this would be viable as a choice because it says mind armour rtather than mind armaments, but the link of the actual word goes to the armoured blade page, so i guess at least it might be okay)
might not be able to do much damage to undead or demons until I get +2 weapon enhancement and can go for holy to get through DR.
I get masterwork half plate with aegis warhulk, but i get psionic attack to get around DR brawn customisation bumps my STR and if i take fighter's blade feat i can count my enhanced blade as +4 to allow me to take aegis levels without losing too many bonuses.
they both look pretty good, and i'm not sure which i like better, but this discussion has given me some space to think it through
thanks heaps.
| KahnyaGnorc |
There is also a similar feat for Aegis - Student of the Astral Suit (+4 level for Astral Suit, up to character level). Both of those, combined with Metaforge, can net you:
Aegis 4/Soulknife 4/Metaforge 10 (if you decide to go all out in Metaforge):
Character level: 18
Astral Suit level: 18
Soulblade level: 18
Aegis DR level: 14
If you want further options, you could look at Path of War options:
War Soul (best for single-class Soulknife, really)
PoW Customizations (since it is based off of effective Aegis level for Astral Suit, the feat and Metaforge works well with it)