Contemplative Blindsense (Thought) and Undead

[DMJay]

Hello All,

I am DM'ing a game with a Contemplative PC, and wanted to know how to treat the Contemplative trait Blindsense (Thought). Currently the PCs are dealing with corporeal undead (Nano-Zombies) with the Undead Immunities, as well as incorporeal undead creatures with an intelligence score of 2 and Undead Immunities.

The relevant portion of Undead Immunities is immunity to "Mind-Affecting Effects".

So my questions are:

1) Blindsense (Thought) does not appear to actually "affect" the minds of those it senses, but does an Undead type creature with some intelligence have a mind to be sensed?
2) Would that similarly mean that robots, drones or other creatures that are unaffected by mind affecting effects are detectable by a psychic power because of their intelligence score?

Maybe I'm overthinking this, but I'm just as likely under thinking it.

Thanks.

[SuperBidi]

Anything with an intelligence score has thoughts. So you should detect undeads as long as they are not mindless. Same with constructs.
Immunity to mind affecting comes from the fact that their mind is too different from ours to be affected by classical mind affecting effects. But they can be targeted by non classical mind affecting effects, like command undead.

[Xenocrat]

SuperBidi wrote:

But they can be targeted by non classical mind affecting effects, like command undead.

Command Undead is not mind affecting in any way.

[Metaphysician]

This is part of why I house-rule away the *entire* "automatic undead immunity to mind effecting". Mindless undead are immune just fine, but if you have an INT score above "N/A"? You can be psychic-ed just fine.