I'm converting an 8th-level wizard into an 8th-level witch, since that class better represents some of the concepts I'm going for, and my wizard build accidentally violated some of my GM's source restrictions.
My wizard had a blessed book, and spent a lot of gold adding new spells to it (paying only for the privilege to look at other wizard's spellbooks). I'd like to do something similar with my witch, but to my knowledge, there isn't anything akin to the blessed book for witches.
Looking at the class description, there doesn't even appear to be a cost. I just need to trade spells known with other witches. Does this mean that I could conveniently start play with all the witch spells known that I am capable of casting? I don't see how trading with witches as part of my background would be any different than having done so as a wizard.
Are there any associated costs with getting more spells known as a witch that I'm missing? Or is it really as simple as "getting around?"
RAW is vague. You can certainly buy scrolls to feed your familiar, but would surely like to go cheaper. As a GM I would have the other witch charge gp similiar to what a wizard would for copying from their book.
I'm converting an 8th-level wizard into an 8th-level witch, since that class better represents some of the concepts I'm going for, and my wizard build accidentally violated some of my GM's source restrictions.
My wizard had a blessed book, and spent a lot of gold adding new spells to it (paying only for the privilege to look at other wizard's spellbooks). I'd like to do something similar with my witch, but to my knowledge, there isn't anything akin to the blessed book for witches.
Looking at the class description, there doesn't even appear to be a cost. I just need to trade spells known with other witches. Does this mean that I could conveniently start play with all the witch spells known that I am capable of casting? I don't see how trading with witches as part of my background would be any different than having done so as a wizard.
There are no direct monetary costs associated with learning a spell as a witch. The actual costs are finding another witch's familiar who knows the desired spell and who is willing to allow the first witch's familiar to commune with it. Like any other background detail (especially when non-1st-level character generation is involved), the degree with which this can be utilized as character background is completely up to GM fiat.
My wizard had a blessed book, and spent a lot of gold adding new spells to it (paying only for the privilege to look at other wizard's spellbooks). I'd like to do something similar with my witch, but to my knowledge, there isn't anything akin to the blessed book for witches.
That would be the Stone Familiar.
Does this mean that I could conveniently start play with all the witch spells known that I am capable of casting?
You can also learn spells you cannot cast yet. Just need to make the spellcraft check to learn it. That won't give you the slots to cast it, but you can know it.
/cevah
Assuming your ripping out spell pages out of your blessed book, and feeding it to your familiar.
The GM may allow you to make up an archetype for your class stating that your familiar is able to learn from the Wizard class that as well.
Keep in mind that the rules do say you can stack archtypes, long as they do not conflict. For example, taking a archetype that alters spells, while the 2nd archetype takes away spell features would be an obvious conflict.
While it never spells out how much a Witch would charge to allow another Witch's familiar to learn a spell from her familiar, it is reasonable to assume that the rule for Wizards sharing knowledge would apply here as well "Wizards charge a fee for the privilege of copying spells from their spellbooks. This fee is usually equal to half the cost to write the spell into a spellbook."
So figure out what a wizard would to allow copying, and use that for what a witch would charge to allow sharing.
That said, it is certainly reasonable for a GM to limit how many spell and which spells are gained during character background.
I mean, extraplanar creatures with class levels aren't unheard of. Good luck, though.
The Grand Hex Summon Spirit lets you get an 18th level ghost humanoid like Greater Planar Ally. However, even with a ghost that has the 9th level spel you want, they don't come with the familiar. Without the familiar, they cannot get you the spell for free. However, you could get them to provide the spell for making a scroll. This costs plenty. :-/
/cevah
Such creatures cast spells as though they were particular classes. Unless they have actual class levels, though, they aren't actually those classes. A hypothetical lillend that casts spells as a witch instead of a druid, for example, would not have a familiar and thus would not be able to share spells with you without some other ability allowing it.
