Some questions regarding the Quintessentialist (Spiritualist archetype)


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Due to the recent Additional Resources updates, Distant Realms came back to my attention. In it, there is a Spiritualist archetype known as the Quintessentialist that has become legal. Now, I’m a sucker for these kinds of archetypes (there is lots of RP-potential is this one), but the more I think about it, the more questions it kinda raises. Maybe I’m overthinking things, but as a PFS regular, I like to know exactly what I’m getting into rules-wise. So I want to ask a series of questions about the archetype, and maybe I can get some of them answered? I do not expect a developer to answer (would be nice though, don’t be shy!), so I would also settle for the common consensus.

1. So the Exemplar, which is presented as an alternate, positive version of oneself, states that it only takes over the ability scores of the Spiritualist, but advances as a Phantom. So an Exemplar of a human would still have Darkvision and that of a Dwarf would still have 30ft movement, correct? (With an Exemplar of an Undine not having a swim speed).
2. It states that the Exemplar can be granted the weapons/armor/items the Spiritualist is equipped with when summoned, but originally Phantom’s cannot wield weapons or wear armor. Does this archetype circumvent that original inability? And if it does, does the Exemplar have the same proficiencies as the Spiritualist?
3. If the Exemplar can indeed use the weapons of the Spiritualist, then I assume that the incorporeal version of the Exemplar still cannot attack corporeal creatures (even if it uses ghost touch weapons), due to the limitation incorporeal Phantoms have, right?
4. The Exemplar class feature only alters the Phantom class feature. Does that mean that the Exemplar still counts as a Phantom for the sake of feats? (for example, Phantom Ally)
5. The Exemplar can be granted your feats. Am I correct to think that it gains those on top of the feats it already got from the Phantom progression?

Some of these questions might seem redundant, but they were included for completeness. What does the communal mind of the message boards think?


My quick read:

1. Yes.

2. Yes, but no to proficiencies, it would have to spend feats.

3. I think you're right.

4. Yes.

5. Yes.

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Thanks for your vision, Xenocrat. I'll admit that I was hoping it would have the same proficiencies as the Spiritualist, but I also don't mind taking a few proficiency-feats to make up for that (either on the Phantom or the Spiritualist for passing on).

As I play mostly PFS and taking the most inhibiting wording of a rule is the usual etiquette to prevent table-variation in said sessions, taking the proficiency feats will make sure there will be less discussion on the Exemplar's capabilities. Guess I'll stat something up (and maybe even play it with the scenarios I have left to play).

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