Rules variants and minimum range for ranged attacks

[Remy Grondin]

Hi!

I remember having seen some rules variants in either the Players’ Manual or the DM Guide, but I don’t remember in which one… Can someone help me find them?

Also, there’s a mention in the Beginner Box’s Hero Handbook that you can’t use a ranged weapon against a enemy within 10 feet from your position, but I just can’t find that rule in the Players’ Manual… where is it? Is that rule still applied in the « bigger » book?

Thanks!

[gatherer818]

I've never seen a rule that says there's a minimum range for ranged attacks, although if an opponent is in their melee reach you usually provoke an Attack of Opportunity when you make a ranged attack.

I don't think there are any variant rules in the Core Rulebook, so the Gamemastery Guide is probably what you're thinking of. There are also a TON of variant rules in Ultimate Campaign.

[David knott 242]

I think that rule was in the Beginner's Box only and was meant to prevent the case where you fired a ranged weapon and provoked an attack of opportunity (a reaction that was specifically excluded from the Beginner's Box rules).

[Remy Grondin]

David knott 242 wrote:

I think that rule was in the Beginner's Box only and was meant to prevent the case where you fired a ranged weapon and provoked an attack of opportunity (a reaction that was specifically excluded from the Beginner's Box rules).

So, if I understand correctly, if you use the full rules you could shoot a goblin at point blank with a composite long bow and that would be okay? Talk about splattering greeny blood all over the place! :D

[doomman47]

Remy Grondin wrote:

David knott 242 wrote:

I think that rule was in the Beginner's Box only and was meant to prevent the case where you fired a ranged weapon and provoked an attack of opportunity (a reaction that was specifically excluded from the Beginner's Box rules).

So, if I understand correctly, if you use the full rules you could shoot a goblin at point blank with a composite long bow and that would be okay? Talk about splattering greeny blood all over the place! :D

Well you would provoke an aoo with out the proper feats but yes that is allowed by the current rule set.

[David knott 242]

In other words, since the Beginner's Box had no rules for attacks of opportunity, the only available alternatives were forbidding people from doing things that provoked or letting them do those things with no consequences.