Horn of Criosphinx Questions


Rules Questions


1) How does the feat interact with Pounce? Can I use the extra damage on all of my attacks, or only the first one?

2) If I somehow make the weapons I'm using Agile (such as with an Amulet of Mighty Fists and a monk), do I apply double my dexterity modifier or do I have to choose which effect applies?

3) If I am applying this feat to a weapon which benefits from an improved (1:3) ratio for power attack, such as a two handed weapon, does the increase to x2 strength modifier make Power Attack drop down to a 1:2 ratio?

Silver Crusade

1) All.

2) No. Agile says you don't get Dexterity and a half for two handing your weapon so HoC wouldn't benefit from it.

3) Why would it?


Rysky wrote:


3) Why would it?

I chose an example that actually contradicted what I meant to ask (oops).

Power Attack specifies that for a natural weapon that applies 1 1/2 times your strength modifier you use the improved ratio. If I used a combo such as the post eratta Dragon Style chain, then the attack would sometimes benefit but might not under a strict reading of the feat. Intuitively it would seem like x2 Strength would still apply but RAW can be weird.

Silver Crusade

Ah, Okies.

Don't know where Natural Attacks enters the mix but A) if you only have one it always does STR and 1/2 unless stated otherwise and B) HoC specifically calls out either two handing a weapon or a monk with his hands empty, so as it stands it doesn't currently work with NAs.

Dragon Style/Dragon Ferocity and HoC wouldn't stack since they're doing the same thing.

Still not sure where Power Attack enters the mix.


Rysky wrote:

Ah, Okies.

Don't know where Natural Attacks enters the mix but A) if you only have one it always does STR and 1/2 unless stated otherwise and B) HoC specifically calls out either two handing a weapon or a monk with his hands empty, so as it stands it doesn't currently work with NAs.

Dragon Style/Dragon Ferocity and HoC wouldn't stack since they're doing the same thing.

Still not sure where Power Attack enters the mix.

The specific build I'm looking at is a monk with two claw attacks who is gaining the benefits of Dragon Style through Feral Combat Training.

The more general question is, if I somehow am using a natural attack that benefits from a 1:3 ratio on Power Attack due to applying one and a half times Strength modifier and an ability offers x2 Strength modifier, does the Power Attack ratio drop down to the default 1:2 since it isn't the specified 1 1/2 times? This is also relevant in the case of a handful of monsters such as a T-Rex.

Silver Crusade

Oh! No, it wouldn't drop, since in order to get the x2 you're still doing requirements to have it be 1 1/2 in the first place.

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