Ruling on Sudden Charge amount of actions


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Hi! Got a pretty basic question here, but couldn't really find an answer in the Rulebook. I'll use the Barbarian level 1 feat 'Sudden Charge' as my primary example, but my general question is: When an action/ability states that you can perform another action within it, does that take an addition action slot or not?

For example, 'Sudden Charge' states: '... Stride up to double your speed. If you end the move within melee reach of at least one enemy, you can make a melee strike against that enemy. ..."

It is a 2 action activity. My thought is that it uses the 2 actions to both stride twice AND melee if ended in range. My question is does it actually use a third action to make the melee strike, and the 2 action activity is simply stride 2?

Seems pretty obvious to me that it would be a useless feat if it was just stride 2. But it is level 1. Again, just using an example of something that contains multiple actions within its context.

Thanks!


It's the PF1 charge action, stripped of the bonus, penalty and restrictions and gated behind a feat. Which means IMO that the attack is included.


Schizophant wrote:
Hi! Got a pretty basic question here, but couldn't really find an answer in the Rulebook. I'll use the Barbarian level 1 feat 'Sudden Charge' as my primary example, but my general question is: When an action/ability states that you can perform another action within it, does that take an addition action slot or not?

It does not.

Playtest Rulebook page 296 wrote:
An activity might cause you to take specific actions. You don’t have to spend additional actions to perform them because they’re already factored into the activity’s required actions. (See Dependant Abilities.)

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