| Taason the Black |
A helpless opponent is one that has for all intents and purposes a Dex of 0. Surprised opponents are denied their dex bonus.
Technically it makes sense. Surprise round only. I would say it wouldnt work just on normal SA but out of nowhere and the guy is taking a dump or reading a book isnt much different from snoozing.
Thoughts?
| skizzerz |
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Dex of 0 and denied Dex bonus to AC are two very different things. Coup de grace only works on helpless opponents, and being flat-footed does not make you helpless.
If you want to houserule otherwise then go for it, but keep in mind that coup de grace is a full round action by default and you only get a single standard or move during a surprise round.