Are there any gods like this?


Lost Omens Campaign Setting General Discussion


Do any gods allow clerics to be any alignment (I assume it would be a True Neutral god.)


no.

1 step rule

a neutral deity can only have
TN
LN
CN
NG
NE


From what I understand of Pathfinder 2nd Edition, deities can allow Clerics of whatever alignments they want, but probably none will do so in the Pathfinder Campaign Setting (usually following the 1-step rule or something even more strict).

Silver Crusade

UnArcaneElection wrote:

From what I understand of Pathfinder 2nd Edition, deities can allow Clerics of whatever alignments they want, but probably none will do so in the Pathfinder Campaign Setting (usually following the 1-step rule or something even more strict).

The opposite is true, actually. Deities only allow specific alignments for their Clerics (and not just the 1 step rule).


Well, there's Shask, but he's not even remotely canon outside of the homebrew setting he calls home.


Rysky wrote:
UnArcaneElection wrote:

From what I understand of Pathfinder 2nd Edition, deities can allow Clerics of whatever alignments they want, but probably none will do so in the Pathfinder Campaign Setting (usually following the 1-step rule or something even more strict).

The opposite is true, actually. Deities only allow specific alignments for their Clerics (and not just the 1 step rule).

Not sure where we are disagreeing. If I remember correctly what I read, they can be as strict or as loose as they want to be, with a lot of those in the Pathfinder Campaign Setting choosing to be even more strict than the 1-step rule (and not necessarily symmetrically).

Silver Crusade

UnArcaneElection wrote:
Rysky wrote:
UnArcaneElection wrote:

From what I understand of Pathfinder 2nd Edition, deities can allow Clerics of whatever alignments they want, but probably none will do so in the Pathfinder Campaign Setting (usually following the 1-step rule or something even more strict).

The opposite is true, actually. Deities only allow specific alignments for their Clerics (and not just the 1 step rule).

Not sure where we are disagreeing. If I remember correctly what I read, they can be as strict or as loose as they want to be, with a lot of those in the Pathfinder Campaign Setting choosing to be even more strict than the 1-step rule (and not necessarily symmetrically).

Ah, I misread your post as saying "Clerics can be whatever alignment they want", my apologies.


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You could conceivably get this result through a mythic character/creature with both Divine Source and Beyond Morality.

Your faith is going to be a complete mess, though. Think of how bad the schisms are with, for example, Sarenrae, and her neutral heretic followers (the Cult of the Dawnflower) v. her mainstream neutral good followers. That's just the mess that can result from a one-step difference.

Now think of how much worse it'll be if you can have followers of opposing alignments.

They'd never stop killing each other.

Spoiler tagged because relating to real world religion:

Pathfinderverse Earth Homebrew Stuff:
"Ascended Mortal with Beyond Morality" is exactly how I planned to handle the Abrahamic God if/when it came up in my Reign of Winter campaign, with Richard III, Saladin, Jeanne d'Arc, Henry VIII, Torquemada, Conquistador Cortez, Ivan the Terrible, etc., all being valid worshipers of this entity. I.e., Rasputin's nosferatu antipaladins could have been drawing on the Abrahamic God for their powers. (Aside: Though in my mythic RoW game I'd made Rasputin the anti-Christ, and so they were drawing directly upon him.)


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Zhangar wrote:

You could conceivably get this result through a mythic character/creature with both Divine Source and Beyond Morality.

Your faith is going to be a complete mess, though. Think of how bad the schisms are with, for example, Sarenrae, and her neutral heretic followers (the Cult of the Dawnflower) v. her mainstream neutral good followers. That's just the mess that can result from a one-step difference.

Now think of how much worse it'll be if you can have followers of opposing alignments.

They'd never stop killing each other.

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Have to say that's an awesome lead-in to your Spoiler.


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Zhangar wrote:

Now think of how much worse it'll be if you can have followers of opposing alignments.

They'd never stop killing each other.

There was a time in Golarion history when druids were split into several orders and were fighting between themselves - they didn't even need to be of opposing alignments.

There are also followers of Nethys, who can easily be of opposing alignments and fight each other. Nethys doesn't care.

Gorum's followers are willing to kill each other even if they are of the same alignment.


yep, Nethys was my first thought. Them Neutral magic gods have that 'here's some spells... You do you" mentality.


As other's have said, pretty much only Nethys and Gorum. Nethys doesn't care about your morality, only that you really like magic and push it's boundaries. Likewise, Gorum doesn't care why you fight or for which side, only that you fight hard and against worthy opponents. That's all I can think of.

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