Evan Riggs
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ok, so for the sake of getting past the fact that most of you hate the archetype.
Class feature
Holy Slinger (Ex)
This ability functions like the holy champion paladin class feature, but the banishment occurs when she hits an evil outsider with the smiting shot deed.
my opinion
paizo has some poor wording. most classes say it replaces, it alters or its gained at a specific level.
Question:
is this poor wording on their part or you gain it at 1st level?
my opinion, but i know what is implied
now looking at it is clearly implied to me its mean to replace or alter the 20th lvl ability. but for the RAW world it doesn't specify.
Cleass feature
Smiting Shot (Su) (replaces smite evil).
my opinion
Ok clearly mentioned.
my question
so what about later on when i active this ability?
Example
Aura of Justice (Su)
At 11th level, a paladin can expend two uses of her smite evil ability to grant the ability to smite evil to all allies within 10 feet, using her bonuses. Allies must use this smite evil ability by the start of the paladin’s next turn and the bonuses last for 1 minute. Using this ability is a free action. Evil creatures gain no benefit from this ability.
my question
do i suddenly give all my allies Smite Evil? or do i give them Smiting Shot?
doesnt say it alters Aura of Justice.
my question
so if you were the DM in this game how would you rule these abilities if the player's character was taken to these points.
my thoughts
i'm pretty sure i know how i would rule it but id like to hear other opinions on the subject.
Obvious other threads
i have already read the thread on how not to be the holy gun and why people think it sucks. that being said id still like some opinions on the content above.
| blahpers |
1. As worded, technically 1st level, but it's pretty clear that it's supposed to be at 20th, same as the original.
2. Technically, you don't get smite evil, so you can't expend uses of it, so you can't activate aura of justice. Again, bad wording.
3. I'd have holy slinger come online at 20th and allow smiting shot to count as smite evil for the purposes of prerequisites & activations. I'd have it use two grit points to grant smite evil to her allies, including to the holy gun herself since she's her own ally. I would, however, prevent smite evil from stacking with smiting shot since I'd be treating both as variations of the same ability.
I'd also be house ruling extensively at this point.
| VoodistMonk |
Your Divine Deed (Smiting Shot), which replaces Smite Evil, can only be used by the Holy Gun... according to Divine Deed.
Aura of Justice is a waste, now completely useless, yet another glaring example of the poor wording used in this particular archetype.
So even if you could spend two uses of Smiting Shot to activate Aura of Justice, which you cannot, but say you can, then only other Holy Guns would benefit from it.
And the only thing worse than one Holy Gun, is multiple Holy Guns. Lol.
I jest, but this archetype is horrible. Cavalier and Fighter and Vigilante and Alchemist all have better archetypes for firearm usage. At least better worded archetypes. Lol.
Nothing ruins dungeons and dragons quite like firearms. In my opinion, everything they touch is pure trash in this game.