| Atalius |
Alright, I'm not totally clear on this spell and how it works. So I would only be able to cast a spell or spell-like ability with a high concentration check. I would inhibit arcane magic, now this is where I am uncertain:
1) Does a dragon cast all arcane and SLA that are arcane in nature?
2) Can the enemy be 15ft away from me and hit me with a touch spell or SLA or breathe weapon? or would the source severance basically shutdown anything from a range greater than 5ft?
3) Please as any additional information would be great.
| Dave Justus |
"it suppresses only spells of the chosen type and supernatural and spell-like class abilities from classes that grant spellcasting"
"Magic items, other spell-like abilities, and other supernatural abilities are unaffected."
So any power that a dragon got from having class levels in Sorcerer would be suppressed, but any abilities it got from just being a dragon would not be. So it's racial SLA and breathe weapon would work just fine.
Like an antimagic field, any magic that targeted you, and was the appropriate type, would just cease to exist. So if you sever arcane magic, a magic missile won't be effective against you even if it cast from farther away, and an creature under the effects of an arcane enlarge person would shrink when he got too close.
| Pizza Lord |
Are there any downsides to casting this (knowing I auto succeed on the concentration check)?
The downside would be not to expect any buffs you have of the chosen type to work. If you chose arcane, don't expect to keep your mage armor or shield up. If you choose divine, don't expect to get healed by the cleric. Even if you successfully cast a spell, it would still have to be outside the radius to have any effect, otherwise it's suppressed like anything else.
If you can auto-succeed that's pretty impressive unless you're purposefully casting low-level spells only. Assuming you are 11th to cast the spell, you're probably getting a +4 to +6 for casting attribute, even at 14th-level that's about a +20 to your roll. At 20 + double spell level you're still looking at a small chance of failure on a 4th-level spell and a 50-50 on anything higher.
1) Does a dragon cast all arcane and SLA that are arcane in nature?
The answer to this is yes, though Dave Justus already explained why it doesn't have any bearing in this case, since they aren't from a class. For future reference, a dragon's spells are cast as arcane, like a sorcerer. Even in cases where a dragon can select cleric or divine spells, like gold dragons, those still count as arcane.
| Atalius |
Atalius wrote:Are there any downsides to casting this (knowing I auto succeed on the concentration check)?The downside would be not to expect any buffs you have of the chosen type to work. If you chose arcane, don't expect to keep your mage armor or shield up. If you choose divine, don't expect to get healed by the cleric. Even if you successfully cast a spell, it would still have to be outside the radius to have any effect, otherwise it's suppressed like anything else.
If you can auto-succeed that's pretty impressive unless you're purposefully casting low-level spells only. Assuming you are 11th to cast the spell, you're probably getting a +4 to +6 for casting attribute, even at 14th-level that's about a +20 to your roll. At 20 + double spell level you're still looking at a small chance of failure on a 4th-level spell and a 50-50 on anything higher.
Thanks Pizza! Ya I don't have any arcane spells being cast on me, just cleric spells like Magic Vestment, and would have other spells of the Divine nature ie blessing of fervor. My concentration bonus is +31. With a 1 I would have a 32 which is what I need to cast my level 6 spells (DC 20 + double the highest level spell). We do have a paladin and alchemist in the group, the paladin thankfully would work just fine I'm not sure though if I could benefit from any of the alchemists buffs? Sounds like this spell is spectacular for our composition.
| Pizza Lord |
You would need a concentration check for each problem. If you were casting defensively, while entrangled, on a storm-tossed ship deck, after someone had sounded a chime of interruption, you would need:
DC (15 + double spell level; casting defensively),
DC (15 + spell level; violent motion),
DC (15 + spell level; entangled), and
DC (15 + spell level; chime of interruption).
Then if you were injured as you started casting the spell (by a readied action, since you wouldn't provoke an AoO from casting defensively), you need a DC (10 + spell level + damage dealt).
Your +4 from Combat Casting would only apply to the check for casting defensively (and in a grapple).
Might I ask how you are getting your concentration modifier? Caster level, casting stat modifier, some favored class bonus alternate traits, etc.
| Atalius |
And yes I would always be in melee as I am a bad touch cleric so I tried to get my casting defensively as high as I could so I could auto succeed on it. Soon Combat casting will be retrained and I will buy another item that will boost my concentration checks instead of spending a feat. I thought casting defensively was what was needed for source severance, clearly if it isn't I need to lower that score.