Regeneration questions


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Firs, if a creature have regeneration negated by particular metal or alignment, like Eremite Kyton, will +3 weapon (that counts as silver for overcoming DR) negate such regeneration? I thought not, but since weapons that count as magic can harm incorporeal i am not sure about this.

Second, if a character have Pearly White Spindle, got his leg cut off, will it regenerate because it works like Ring of Regeneration? What about cracked/flawed versions, the "work like ring" clause is ommitted just because its implied, or because it does not work like ring (and can heal damage that is not recieved while stone is in use?).

and lastly, this is not about regeneration but if an effect grants additional saving throw to shake off ongoing effects, like Judgment Light (of Purity) cast on character who is under effect of Bestow Curse or Blindness/Deafness will this allow the character to shake off the effect?


DarkPhoenixx wrote:
Firs, if a creature have regeneration negated by particular metal or alignment, like Eremite Kyton, will +3 weapon (that counts as silver for overcoming DR) negate such regeneration? I thought not, but since weapons that count as magic can harm incorporeal i am not sure about this.

Higher enhancement bonuses may count as Cold Iron, Silver, Adamantine, and Alignment for bypassing DR, but a high enhancement bonus doesn't actually change what your weapon is made of. That's why a +4 weapon doesn't ignore hardness, as adamantine does.

So as far as I can tell, the answer is no.

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DarkPhoenixx wrote:
Second, if a character have Pearly White Spindle, got his leg cut off, will it regenerate because it works like Ring of Regeneration? What about cracked/flawed versions, the "work like ring" clause is ommitted just because its implied, or because it does not work like ring (and can heal damage that is not recieved while stone is in use?).

Yes. The leg will regenerate, and the character is immune to bleed damage.

I hadn't noticed that the Cracked/Flawed version lacked the full text.
It's certain that the clause is just omitted. Whether that is an oversight or just because it's a pretty long clause, I can't tell. But ask yourself this. Why would the lesser version of the Ioun Stone have more utility that the original?

Not to mention that if it didn't work as a Ring of Regeneration, it would default to the monster ability, making you unkillable.

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DarkPhoenixx wrote:
and lastly, this is not about regeneration but if an effect grants additional saving throw to shake off ongoing effects, like Judgment Light (of Purity) cast on character who is under effect of Bestow Curse or Blindness/Deafness will this allow the character to shake off the effect?

Yes. I'd say it works the same as the Freedom Subdomain's power and can therefore be used on Bestow Curse.

Judgment Light: Purity wrote:
White light erupts from the caster, allowing each ally within the burst to attempt a saving throw against a single effect that allows a saving throw with a +2 sacred bonus on the roll.

The ambiguity stems from the italicized part. According to my interpretation, that part is not meant to limit the spell to only function on ongoing effects with multiple saves, it's simply limiting the spell to only affect effects that had/has a save.


Thank you!

Would you also happen to know if regeneration from several sources like 2 ion stones, stack?


I would happen to know that.

Magic: Combining Magic Effects: Same Effect More than Once in Different Strengths wrote:
In cases when two or more identical spells are operating in the same area or on the same target, but at different strengths, only the one with the highest strength applies.

They would not stack.

Also, the Ioun Stone is great because it allows you to regrow arms and makes you immune to bleed. Not because of the healing effect. So I'd recommend you to buy a cracked version and get your healing elsewhere.


It’s unclear if this would help with bleed. Regular monster regeneration is an Ex ability, therefore not “magical healing” required to stop bleed effects. This is magical, but is it “healing” or is it just regeneration and is that separate from healing? The timing also matters. Do you heal (if you do) that first point immediately or after 10 minutes? The bleed doesn’t stop until you benefit from the magical healing, so the timing is critical.


Pearly White Spindle (Ioun Stone) wrote:
This stone grants the wearer the ability to regenerate 1 point of damage per 10 minutes. Regeneration works like a ring of regeneration. It only cures damage taken while the character is using the stone.
Ring of Regeneration wrote:
This white gold ring is generally set with a large green sapphire. When worn, the ring continually allows a living wearer to heal 1 point of damage per round and an equal amount of nonlethal damage. In addition, the wearer is immune to bleed damage while wearing a ring of regeneration. If the wearer loses a limb, an organ, or any other body part while wearing this ring, the ring regenerates it as the spell regenerate. In either case, only damage taken while wearing the ring is regenerated.

RAW, it works. From the language, the immunity to bleed seems to be a separate effect from the healing, and not caused by the healing.


Oh, thanks!

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