Equipment Trick (Ladder) questions


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Equipment Trick says:
"If the item would normally be considered an improvised weapon, you can treat it as either a normal weapon or an improvised weapon, depending on which is more beneficial for you."

If you have Catch Off-Guard and Equipment Trick (Ladder) you get:
"Ladder Fighter (Catch Off-Guard): You treat a ladder as a quarterstaff with the fragile and trip special features, and you can apply feats and abilities as if it were a quarterstaff (for example, a monk can use a ladder to perform a flurry of blows)."

Is the ladder an improvised weapon OR a staff? For example, the character I'm considering would have:
Halfling (Resourceful trait), Bard (Juggler), Equipment Trick (Ladder), Weapon Focus (Quarterstaff), Quarterstaff Master

I want Quarterstaff Master so I can wield the ladder one-handed so I can juggle it. I see no problems with that part, but I'm unsure if I can use the ladder as an improvised weapon AND a quarterstaff at the same time (I have plans for other improvised weapon bonuses later).

Does that make sense?

Side question about Halfling Resourceful:
"Resourceful: Halflings with this trait do not take any penalties for using improvised weapons. This trait counts as the Catch Off-Guard or Throw Anything feats for the purpose of qualifying for feats. This racial trait replaces sure-footed and weapon familiarity."

It says that it counts as Catch Off-Guard for the purposes of qualifying for feats. Catch Off-Guard is a requirement for the Ladder Fighter ability in Equipment Trick (Ladder), but not for the feat itself. Does that mean I have to burn a feat for Catch Off-Guard as well to get Ladder Fighter?

Thanks!


You can treat it as what you want it to be at any given time but in one action it can be only one thing. A staff to flurry one round and an improvised weapon the next round for something else. But you couldn't get the +1 weapon focus for being a staff and +damage for being improvised in the same attack.

I'd say you don't have to get the feat, your trait counts.

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