Spell Storing + Holding a Charge + Hex Strike + Rage?


Rules Questions


Going to be making a fist magus soon. Since I won't have the same level of up-front damage as a normal magus I have decided to go the de-buff route. For now my class build is showing Kineticist(2)/MoMS Monk(2)/Hex-Crafter Magus(X) using Hex Strike. My normal set-up would go like:

1) Move action forward, spell-strike Stricken Heart, or stunning fist if I need to conserve the spell slots. Swift action Hex-Strike (Misfortune). Adding Boar Style, Boar Ferocity, Cornugan Smash, and a Cruel weapon enchantment I should be able to get the opponent some combination of Shaken, Sickened, Staggered, Stunned, and Hexed on any given round. Might even get some scrolls of Ray of Enfeeblement so that I can have some ranged openers that stay within theme.

2) Chill Touch/spell combat until enemy is paste under fists.

Now, I had some questions about some interactions with this:
1) Can I hold Stricken Heart or Chill Touch in a spell storing amulet of mighty fists, and cast it at the same time as the spell-strike of the other spell on the first hit?

2)If I cast both of these spells first (one in spellstoring, one actually cast) and then cast Rage can I keep holding the charge of the cast spell? Can I still give the mental command to release the spell from the spell-storing amulet? Can I still use HEX STRIKE if I'm raging?


Also thinking of maybe going Dragon Style instead of Boar since Dragon Ferocity makes my stunning fists and critical hits give the shaken condition...but that's a side note.


Adding onto this chain of questions, I just read up on scrolls:

Using Scrolls wrote:
Activate the Spell: Activating a scroll requires reading the spell from the scroll. The character must be able to see and read the writing on the scroll. Activating a scroll spell requires no material components or focus. (The creator of the scroll provided these when scribing the scroll.) Note that some spells are effective only when cast on an item or items. In such a case, the scroll user must provide the item when activating the spell. Activating a scroll spell is subject to disruption just as casting a normally prepared spell would be. Using a scroll is like casting a spell for purposes of arcane spell failure chance.

Emphasis mine. Does this mean that I can cast from a scroll when raging? I cant cast spells when raging as I need to focus/concentrate, but as scrolls already have that component provided it should be alright...right?


Focus in this case refers to the focus component - an item which is used but not consumed by the spell. It doesn't refer to concentration and you can still be interrupted when casting a spell from a scroll. Rage will interfere I'm afraid.


Grandlounge wrote:

I think you are multi classing to much. You're way behind in spells, bab and your hex dcs are 2 behind where they should be.

If you want to get to your goal quicker enforcer is a common choice. Add that to rime frostbite and cruel.

Thanks, that's all been considered and accounted for via Magical Lineage Trait and a Focus of CON, WIS, AND INT as my main stats. DM also approves of Increase Supernatural Ability Monster Feat. Hitting hard isn't a focus, nor is spell casting. I'm a tanky de-buffer, and general pain in the ass for my DM. Stricken heart has no saving throw ;)


avr wrote:
Focus in this case refers to the focus component - an item which is used but not consumed by the spell. It doesn't refer to concentration and you can still be interrupted when casting a spell from a scroll. Rage will interfere I'm afraid.

Ah, Focus != Concentration. Noted, thanks!


*squeak* still need original q's answered


OK, I'll give it a go.

1: You can store either of those spells in a spell storing AoMF. You only get one attack out of it so chill touch may not be the greatest though.

It's a free action to cast the spell out of a spell storing weapon (or AoMF) so yes, you can double up on spellstrike.

2: Casting any spell causes you to stop holding the charge on a previous spell. That includes rage. The spell storing weapon casts the spell when the wielder desires, rather than the wielder casting the spell, so it can work when raging - is that what you're asking? Hex strike will work fine while raging, hexes don't ever require concentration checks.

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