Dimension Door / Abundant Step


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Liberty's Edge

Hello All-

Last night I was playing my Unchained Monk and used my Abundant Step ability. After I stepped through I went to take my standard action. A friend of mine at the table insisted I could not do so because after to use Dem Door you can take not further action. I conceded, for the good of table time, but I believe I was right.

Now Dem Door says it is a standard to cast, you can take objets or others with you and can take no further actions.

Abundant Step says it acts ‘as if’ using a Dem Door but the Monk can take no one with him and it’s a Move Action.

I said I could take the step as my Move Action and then strike-he said it was confined to the rules on Dem Door.

If that was the case, why didn’t they just call it Dem Doot in the first place and why put in that it’s a ‘Move Action’ at all?

I appreciate everyone’s input and thank you all in advance.


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You need the feat 'Dimensional Agility' to do anything after having used Abundant Step.

The reason they called it Abundant Step instead of Dimension Door is probably because they want to seperate the two, since one is an ability and the other is a spell.


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This question has been debated on numerous occasions over the years. The result of said debates was as Shady Stranger said: after any dimension-door-like effect you can take no further actions unless you have that cool feat. A forum search will doubtless turn up the relevant FAQ entries.


There's really nothing to FAQ.

Dimension Door: "After using this spell, you can’t take any other actions until your next turn."

Dimensional Agility feat: "After using abundant step or casting dimension door, you can take any actions you still have remaining on your turn. You also gain a +4 bonus on Concentration checks when casting teleportation spells."

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why put in that it’s a ‘Move Action’ at all?

It's a move action because it allows you to punch someone and then teleport away, or teleport in with Dimensional Agility and then punch them.


Faragrim Ironhand wrote:
why put in that it’s a ‘Move Action’ at all?

You can still use a standard action before activating abundant step, on the same turn. But not after.

Liberty's Edge

Thanks for clearing that up for me. I really appreciate all of the input!

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