Seducer Witch - Fun with non-consensual sexual assault!

[JuliusUK]

Witch - Seducer Archetype (Legacy of the First World)

What a shame! I was really excited when I saw this. I have always thought Witches should be Charisma casters so the fact this Archetype allows that would have been really attractive to me... Unfortunately, then I read it and noticed it's not PFS legal. I can see why too...

Seducer’s Kiss (Su): At 6th level, a seducer can kiss another creature as a melee touch attack. The target must succeed at a Will save (DC 10 + half the seducer’s level + her Charisma modifier) or be staggered for 1 round. If the target is (or could be) sexually attracted to the seducer, the save DC is increased by 2...

An 'attack' which involves kissing someone without their consent #metoo! What were the designers thinking? Did they look at the existing body of Pathfinder supplements and think, there is just not enough sexual assault built into this game. I mean does nobody sit down and have these discussions?

[Tarik Blackhands]

Up next, fun with war crimes as Paizo supports the wholesale immolation of hostile targets with fire and even acid (chemical warfare!)!

I'll be sure to get my buddies to share with the world on what a vile corperation Paizo is.

[Leg o' Lamb]

Please close

[eddv]

I have to agree somewhat - the recent inclusion of more sexual themed abilities is pretty eye-rolling/groan-inducing.

Fortunately its just contained to a few archetypes/options but still it's not something I feel very comfortable with as an open option as a GM running in a store where we do get children as players.

That said this thread is pretty obvious trolling.

[Sara Marie]

If you want to have a discussion in good faith about this, you need to start the thread in a manner that is not baiting and doesn’t encourage the conversation to go downhill right out of the gate. Text based mediums for communication often make conveying tone difficult. Sarcasm, snark and hyperbole are not always clear and can easily negatively escalate a conversation.