So Ghorans and Vine Leshy have the plant type but lack the immunities to mind-affecting, paralysis, poison, polymorph, sleep, and stunning effects that type usually has.
Plants breathe and eat, but do not sleep.
So obviously without the immunity they can be put to sleep such as by a Sleep spell but would they otherwise sleep on a day to day basis?
So Ghorans and Vine Leshy have the plant type but lack the immunities to mind-affecting, paralysis, poison, polymorph, sleep, and stunning effects that type usually has.
Plants breathe and eat, but do not sleep.
So obviously without the immunity they can be put to sleep such as by a Sleep spell but would they otherwise sleep on a day to day basis?
If these characters are spellcasters, they'll still need 8 hours of sleep to prepare their spells. Aside from that, I have no idea whether they'd need sleep or suffer from not getting any.
The two things are completely separate. I remember that well from playing a half-elf summoner (who was immune to sleep effects but needed to sleep normally) and his eidolon (who as an outsider did not need to sleep but could be put to sleep by magical effects).
If these characters are spellcasters, they'll still need 8 hours of sleep to prepare their spells. Aside from that, I have no idea whether they'd need sleep or suffer from not getting any.So Ghorans and Vine Leshy have the plant type but lack the immunities to mind-affecting, paralysis, poison, polymorph, sleep, and stunning effects that type usually has.
Plants breathe and eat, but do not sleep.
So obviously without the immunity they can be put to sleep such as by a Sleep spell but would they otherwise sleep on a day to day basis?
That's not true. They need 8 hours of rest not sleep. Rest just means they aren't doing anything.
If the character does not need to sleep for some reason, he still must have 8 hours of restful calm before preparing any spells.
So Ghorans and Vine Leshy have the plant type but lack the immunities to mind-affecting, paralysis, poison, polymorph, sleep, and stunning effects that type usually has.
Plants breathe and eat, but do not sleep.
So obviously without the immunity they can be put to sleep such as by a Sleep spell but would they otherwise sleep on a day to day basis?
No. When an entry says they dont sleep then they don't sleep. If they slept on a day to day basis then the part about them not sleeping would be false.
This one strikes me as odd, because real life plants do effectively sleep.
This one strikes me as odd, because real life plants do effectively sleep.
These are plant creatures, and also a fantasy game. It's not going to follow real life in many cases. The buckler shield in the game is not even close to the real life version as an example, and how some animals hunt isn't modeled well by animals such as wolves either. There is a long list of D&D/Pathfinder not following real life.
I know all that, but it's still weird. And it shouldn't be treated as a normal thing.
I know all that, but it's still weird. And it shouldn't be treated as a normal thing.
What shouldn't be treated as a normal thing?
In real life, plants don't generally qualify as "creatures" anyway. That is why plant creatures need to eat but most actual plants don't do anything that would be construed by an unscientific observer as eating.
In real life, plants don't generally qualify as "creatures" anyway. That is why plant creatures need to eat but most actual plants don't do anything that would be construed by an unscientific observer as eating.
If real world plants sleep and real world creatures sleep, then it'd be logical to assume that things that are both plants and creatures would also sleep. It's very arbitrary to have it not be so.
I know all that, but it's still weird. And it shouldn't be treated as a normal thing.What shouldn't be treated as a normal thing?
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So Ghorans and Vine Leshy have the plant type but lack the immunities to mind-affecting, paralysis, poison, polymorph, sleep, and stunning effects that type usually has.
Woah, they changed ghorans in Ultimate Wilderness. They used to just be plants with all of the immunities typical of plant creatures. Good to know.
Nevertheless, as quoted in the plant type which both creatures still have, plants breathe and eat, but do not sleep. So no, Ghorans and vine leshys do not need to sleep on a day to day basis, nor can they fall asleep without some effect like the dreaming death or sweetdream poisons or something similar.