Ghost Rider Phantom Mount and Awaken Animal


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What would happen if you cast Awaken Animal on Ghost Rider's Phantom Mount? It is the animal type, but behaves like the Spiritualist's Phantom, which is an Outsider and not a valid target for Awaken Animal.

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Wow, after looking over the Ghost Rider, yeah, that's a pretty big issue in my opinion. It looks like a duck, it quacks like a duck, and yet.... it's not a duck? I would have thought the archetype would have changed the steed to be outsider (phantom) rather than animal (phantom). Maybe it was an editing mistake? I'd faq this:

The Ghost Rider cavalier archetype lists the class's mount as Type: animal (Phantom). Should the ghost mount gained through this archetype be the animal type or outsider type?

This obviously isn't for PFS since Awaken isn't a legal spell for it, and I can't imagine a GM that would rule the mount as anything other than Outsider (Phantom), at which point, no, you can't Awaken it.


I would expect that upon awakening it would no longer be a valid phantom with someone to manifest it and therefore it would unmanifest immediately.


I don't think gaining intelligence would make it leave you, since the regular phantom has a 7 intelligence. I think it works as written, but was not intended. This Archetype suffers from a number of issues that mainly result from the starting stat block printed.

Is it supposed to be an animal, which leads to follow-up questions. Do you have to use handle animal to use it? Does it need to learn animal tricks? If your phantom mount is a wolf, does it have hoof attacks? Can it be Awakened?

The easiest solution is to make it an outsider and give it different starting stats based on what it is.


"An awakened animal can’t serve as an animal companion, familiar, or special mount."

The ghost mount seems pretty special to me.

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