half orcs with "heart of the ..." Alternate Racial Trait


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Grand Lodge

we know per this FAQ that 1/2 orcs qualify/counts as human for everything.

from Advanced Race Guide, they have an alternate racial trait that replace their darkvision :
it's called Skilled, it gives

Quote:

Second- and third-generation half-orcs often favor their human heritage more than their orc heritage. Half-orcs with this trait gain 1 additional skill rank per level. This racial trait replaces darkvision.

Humans have a basic racial trait "skilled" (same power) that can be replaced by various alternate racial traits : "heart of the xxx"

can an 1/2 orc go Darkvision --> skilled --> heart of the xxx


No, you can only replace a trait that your race normally has. No, I don't remember where I read this, so I cannot quote you a source.

Scarab Sages

It only counts for effects ON the character, not racial traits, feats, etc. The racial traits are for that particular race only.

Look at racial qualifications for feats, they all say "human or half-orc" or "half-orc or orc", half-orcs do not qualify for ones that say "human" or "orc" only.

Even taking the Adopted trait as well only allows you to pick "race" traits for another race, not "racial" traits.


Berti Blackfoot wrote:

It only counts for effects ON the character, not racial traits, feats, etc. The racial traits are for that particular race only.

Look at racial qualifications for feats, they all say "human or half-orc" or "half-orc or orc", half-orcs do not qualify for ones that say "human" or "orc" only.

This is not true as of 2013, as per the FAQ the OP already cited.

However, toastedamphibian is correct that you can't replace a racial trait you don't have.

Scarab Sages

If they didn't name "racial traits" and "traits" the same it would be more clear. wow 2013?

Of course since most races don't share many racial traits, and all the options are replacing racial traits, there is not much that could be picked from another list so it's moot.


Pathfinder Starfinder Society Subscriber

The real problem is that you already replaced a half-orc racial trait to get Skilled, so you can't replace Skilled again to get yet another alternate racial trait.

If a half-orc were meant to be able to get human alternate racial traits that replaced Skilled, there would be language like that in the Duergar alternate racial trait "Dwarf Traits".

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