what is a concertina made out of?


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concertina: miniature-ish accordion, probably a good stand-in for a 3 lb instrument that relies on Perform (keyboard) to use.

materials: wood for the side boards, cloth and leather for the bellows, and brass or steel for the reeds.

So, for an 8 Str bard, every pound matters. For the purposes of making a concertina or accordion out of a special material, which one is it: mithral, darkwood, or darkleaf cloth?

Could I assume that each kind of part weighs 1 lb, and price it accordingly? 500gp for the mithral reeds, 375gp for darkleaf bellows, and...I dunno, 110gp for darkwood boards?


also, what the heck, Occult Adventures introduced the concept of a 'silver' masterwork instrument, where the body, or possibly the strings, of an instrument are made of silver.

a) can you make a silver flute out of mithral or singing steel?
b) can you make the body of a lute out of darkwood, and just string it with silver?


The Silver Balladeer archetype was inspired by the character John the Balladeer from the stories of Manly Wade Wellman. John carries a guitar with silver strings. (Stringing instruments with silver is also mentioned in the archetype's description.)

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ohako wrote:
Could I assume that each kind of part weighs 1 lb, and price it accordingly? 500gp for the mithral reeds, 375gp for darkleaf bellows, and...I dunno, 110gp for darkwood boards?

Sounds reasonable for a home game. For PFS... *shrug*

Silver Balladeer wrote:
A silver balladeer gains the bardic performances listed below. These bardic performances all require the use of a silver or silver-stringed instrument, which costs twice as much as a normal masterwork instrument.
Darkwood wrote:
To determine the price of a darkwood item, use the original weight but add 10 gp per pound to the price of a masterwork version of that item.

So I'd guess a silver-stringed darkwood lute should cost twice the same as a normal instrument plus 10gp per pound.

I'd say no on the flute since it's only one material - though it's a bit odd that a mithral or singing steel weapon counts as alchemical silver but a mithral or singing steel instrument doesn't count as a silver instrument. I'd probably house-rule that as a GM.

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