| Jason Wedel |
Asked about this earlier, but there was a miscommunication about a couple things, so posting it again... but different...
When a sorcerer takes an archtype that replaces some of their bloodline abilities are the new abilities considered part of the bloodline?
The reason this is important is that there are magic items such as the Robe of Arcane Heratige, or the Arcaniast Exploit Bloodline Development that influences this
Example
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Arcanist, level 8: Arcane Exploit: Bloodline Development, other irrelevant stuff
Eldrick Brawler Sorcerer (Draconic) Level 1
If the arcanist already has a bloodline (or gains one later), taking this exploit instead allows her arcanist levels to stack with the levels of the class that granted her access to the bloodline when determining the powers and abilities of her bloodline.
Martial Flexibility (Ex): At 1st level, an eldritch scrapper gains the brawler’s martial flexibility class feature, using her sorcerer level as her brawler level for the purposes of uses per day. The scrapper treats Arcane Strike and Combat Casting as combat feats for the purpose of this ability.At 9th level, an eldritch scrapper can use this ability to gain the benefit of two combat feats at the same time. She can select one feat as a move action or two feats as a standard action. She can use one of these feats to meet a prerequisite of the second feat; doing so means she cannot replace the feat that is currently fulfilling another feat’s prerequisites without also replacing all feats that require it. Each individual feat selected counts toward her daily uses of this ability.
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This ability replaces the sorcerer’s bloodline powers gained 1st, 9th, and 15th levels.
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Specifically looking for how the Martial Flexibility works at this point
1) level 6, so 6 uses, use 1 as a moveaction?
2) level 1, so 4 uses, Standard action
| Dave Justus |
Martial Flexibility replaces a bloodline power, but is not a bloodline power so a robe of Arcane Heritage or Bloodline Development has no effect on it.
If a hypothetical archetype said something like:
Munchkin Supercoolness: At 1st level a Munchkin gains the Brawler's martial flexibility class feature, a Swashbucklers Panache class feature and a Magus's arcane pool class feature as a BLOODLINE POWER
etc. etc.
This ability replaces the sorcerer’s bloodline powers gained 1st, 9th, and 15th levels.
Then those abilities would be affected by things that increased levels as related to bloodline powers.
| Dave Justus |
It is a reasonable question, my 'munchkin' wasn't intended to mock your question or imply that you were trying to game the system. The overpower 'munchkin' was chosen as a general joke since I couldn't think of any 'real' archetype that worked like my hypothetical and I wanted to illustrate what the difference would be between a general class ability replacing a bloodline power and replacing a bloodline power with a new class ability that also was a bloodline power.