Lynos
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Hi folks
I am developing a campaign that will prominently feature a dragonborn NPC. I have tweaked the rules regarding chromatic dragons a bit, and the gold dragons in my setting are capable of staying in human form for years. This young woman NPC is the offspring of a golden dragon in humanoid form which had a relationship that went for years with a human woman, including a family etc.
I would love to have any auggestions on how to best prepare and play such a character. There are NPC creation tools online that lets you create dragonborn characters, but it's the small stuff that I'm not sure about. Should I give her a tail? Should she be able to fly? An important part of the story is the PC's will not necessarilly learn her real identity early on. Will she look conspiciously alien? Or can I get away with just having her have blond hair and golden eyes? How powerful are dragonborn characters in general? It's important that she'll help the PC's, but not make them feel useless.
Thanks for any advice.
| Bard of Ages |
It depends on what you mean by Dragonborn as that has two rules answers.
1 is the dragonborn from 3.5's draconomicon which were a reptillian race who were "born" after being chosen by bahamut and crafting an expensive egg to be reborn in. Dragonborn in this context could choose a breath weapon, flight, and something else that I'm forgetting at the moment.
2 is the dragonborn from 4e and onward, which are draconic humanoids who sometimes have breath weapons and do not have tails or wings.
The key point between the two is that they look like humanoids with dragon heads and scales, and arms.
What you are describing might better be portrayed as a sorcerer or other "bloodline" class who has a draconic ancestry. (So a sorcerer with the draconic bloodline and picking gold from the list of dragons.)
If you are willing to homebrew, well you can describe it as anything. You can always even use a custom race you built yourself.
Finally, as far as power: the race stats weren't that strong even in the 3.5 version. They were about as powerful as humans/elves/etc. So it really depends on how many class levels she has, and what class she is.
Lynos
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Could be "dragonborn" isn't technically the correct term, since I certainly didn't mean any of the two you mentioned. Yes, it's more like she has draconic ancestry. She may have scales, but faint ones. Maybe she even hides them with a spell. It should be this powerful bloodline she has that gets revealed gradually. If she appears witha giant dragon head on her shoulders subtley will fly out the window... I picture her as either sorcerer or cleric or even rogue... bard is interesting but may not fit with her story arc.
| Bard of Ages |
Okay, if that's the case, here's my honest advice: Make her the same level as the players. You don't have to justify it. Just to keep balance.
Then, as the party progresses through the story you can "progress" her lineage as you see fit. As far as ancestry is concerned, it can be really really subtle. I once played a Fire Giant-Blooded Human Fighter in Giantslayer. The only tell that she had the blood was that sometimes people could swear they saw her hair glimmer with fire out of the corner of their eye, but not while directly looking at her.
| Lucy_Valentine |
If you want the PCs not to discover what she is early on, then having a tail and wings would be a bit of a giveaway. Maybe she's like a bloodrager or dragon disciple or various racial feats, and these things only come out when needed?
As for not overshadowing the PCs, that really comes down to her role in the campaign rather than what she can do. If she's always hanging around with the PCs and is noticeably better than one or more of them at something they consider within their niche, then that's a problem. But if they meet her once in a while and her actual abilities never come up because they just talk, it doesn't matter if she could turn into a dragon and level a town. So I think the big questions are, what do you anticipate the PCs doing during the campaign, how much time will they spend with her, and what do you think the nature of their interactions will be?
| ChaiGuy |
I would approach this situation one of two ways, I'd either have the draconic ancestry be through class features or I'd refluff an existing race to make it more draconic. Either would be relatively balanced imo.
When it comes to class features sorcerer has built in draconic bloodline, and if multiclassed can be a dragon disciple. Cleric or rogue would be more difficult. For the rogue I'd consider eldritch scoundrel unchained rogue (with a re flavored race) and getting dragon like abilities through spells, like fly, a cone of (fire) breath weapon, ect. A cleric with the dragon subdomain (and possibly one of the re flavored races) would be OK.
An example of changing a race would be the ifrit. I'd also change the creature type to humanoid and dragon. I'd add the mostly human alternate racial trait and that'd be the end of it. Other races that might work for refluffing would be Rakshasa-Spawn Tiefling (with pass for human), Agathion-blooded Aasimar (with scion of humanity), Azata-blooded Aasimar (with scion of humanity).
| Darigaaz the Igniter |
Paladin 2/Bard 3or4 into Dragon Disciple is pretty good mechanically while growing into draconic power, and Paladinhood would certainly be thematic with gold dragon ancestry. I'd recommend the Sacred Shield archetype for the paladin levels. It changes out Smite Evil for Bastion of Good, which makes the target deal only half damage to the paladin's allies that are within 10' of said paladin.
Lynos
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As for not overshadowing the PCs, that really comes down to her role in the campaign rather than what she can do. If she's always hanging around with the PCs and is noticeably better than one or more of them at something they consider within their niche, then that's a problem. But if they meet her once in a while and her actual abilities never come up because they just talk, it doesn't matter if she could turn into a dragon and level a town. So I think the big questions are, what do you anticipate the PCs doing during the campaign, how much time will they spend with her, and what do you think the nature of their interactions will be?
It starts as an escort mission. They will accompany her on her quest to rescue her dragon father who has been trapped by another dragon.
She will probably be abducted at some point by the Bad Guys and leave the PC's to their own devices, but until that moment, she will be with them all the time. I think making her level 3 or something might work...? The PC's will be level 2.
I read all the offers and I want to keep it relatively simple. I am relatively new in GMing for PF and don't want to get too much into exotic stuff, but I will look into the Paladin option, I thought of that as well and glad to see it mentioned here. It certainly fits the character I'm thinking about.
| Lucy_Valentine |
Draconic bloodline sorceress makes sense to me.
I second this. A low-level sorceress needs an escort, but isn't a useless. She can spam some spells, but she doesn't overshadow a wizard because they have prep, and even another sorceress will probably have different enough spell selection to be useful.
Mind you, bard also works.Also, if you're going to go far enough into this (level 6+), you might want to look up dragon disciple. It's not VERY complicated, but it is very thematic.