Celestial Plate armor: What's the enchantment price?


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I found this:
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/magic-armor/specific-magic-armor/celest ial-plate-armor/?fref=gc&dti=236693143070161
The properties of celestial full plate are:
Weight 25pounds
Treated as medium armor
AC bonus of 9 (not counting the +3 enhancement bonus)
Max dexterity +6
Armor check penalty of -3
Arcane spell failure of 20%
Fly once per day, caster level 8

And I want to adapt it for a Druid's use in my campaign, thus he is going to have to make his armor out of dragonhide. Normal dragonhide full plate costs 3300.

Meanwhile, celestial plate armor costs 25000gp base price. It's +3 armor, so it's 16000gp minus the added AC. The price of a masterwork suit of full plate is 1650gp. Therefore, I figured the base price of the Fly enchantment and improved stats would be 14450gp. Therefore, the cost of using Craft Magic Arms & Armor would be 7225gp, right? So, the Druid needs to spend 3300gp for the dragonhide full plate, then get it enchanted to a +1 (500gp to enchant), then spend 7225gp to add on the other properties of celestial plate, assuming he hits 8th level and uses Craft Magic Arms & Armor. Am I correct in this?

Eventually he'll put a Wild on his armor, worth a +3, but that's in the future.


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First of all, why is everyone suddenly interested in Celestial Plate Armor? This is like the third post in the last week asking about it, which seems unusual considering it's actually an old D&D 3.5 item (it pre-dates the actual Pathfinder game and has never been reprinted).

Now to answer your question: No one knows. Search the forums for 'Celestial Armor' and you'll find all kinds of arguements as to what these armors are made of, how the pricing works, and how they might (or might not) be further enhanced. To the best of my knowledge, no official clarification has ever been given for Celestial Armor much less its fairly obscure 3.5 heavy offshoot (Note that Celestial Armor was published in the D&D 3.0 PHB back in the late 90s, so developers might be reluctant to make 'official rulings' on an item they possibly merely inherited).

Personally, I am of the school of thought that these armors are already made from a 'special material' and thus can not be made out of Mithril or Dragonhide, but that is just my opinion (the pricing does seem to support this theory, as the price difference between the two armors is really close to the price difference between Mithril versions of Chain Mail and Full Plate, but the fact that the price ends with '50' points indicates a 150g 'Masterwork' cost included, which points away from this conclusion).

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Piccolo wrote:

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AC bonus of 9 (not counting the +3 enhancement bonus)

As a D&D 3.5 item, it should really only have a +8 AC bonus (I had to dig up my old 3.5 PHB, but Full Plate Armor was only +8 AC at the time this item was published).


Well, I was interested in the armor because it was recommended to me, and I was searching for armor that would work for a Druid in my Reign of Winter campaign. He's got a 18 Dexterity.

Thanks for your help.


Taja the Barbarian wrote:
Personally, I am of the school of thought that these armors are already made from a 'special material' and thus can not be made out of Mithril or Dragonhide...

My theory is that whatever the "Celestial" enchantment is, it completely overrides any material properties the armour has...Magic trumps Materials in this case. Saves a lot of hassles in the argument (like, why *wouldn't* you make it out of Mithral???).


Piccolo wrote:

I found this:

Celestial Plate
The properties of celestial full plate are:
Weight 25pounds
Treated as medium armor
AC bonus of 9 (not counting the +3 enhancement bonus)
Max dexterity +6
Armor check penalty of -3
Arcane spell failure of 20%
Fly once per day, caster level 8

And I want to adapt it for a Druid's use in my campaign, thus he is going to have to make his armor out of dragonhide. Normal dragonhide full plate costs 3300.

Meanwhile, celestial plate armor costs 25000gp base price. It's +3 armor, so it's 16000gp minus the added AC. The price of a masterwork suit of full plate is 1650gp. Therefore, I figured the base price of the Fly enchantment and improved stats would be 14450gp. Therefore, the cost of using Craft Magic Arms & Armor would be 7225gp, right? So, the Druid needs to spend 3300gp for the dragonhide full plate, then get it enchanted to a +1 (500gp to enchant), then spend 7225gp to add on the other properties of celestial plate, assuming he hits 8th level and uses Craft Magic Arms & Armor. Am I correct in this?

Eventually he'll put a Wild on his armor, worth a +3, but that's in the future.

Fixed the link.

New Price = Celestial Full Plate - Masterwork Full Plate + Dragonhide Plate.
New Price = 25000 gp - (1500 gp + 150 gp) + 3300 gp = 26650 gp.

/cevah

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