Technomancer longarm or heavy weapon proficiency?


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I have heard that technomancers should take long arm proficiency but I also heard that heavy weapons have better damage total. For a class like technomancer who isn't likely to full attack much is heavy weapon proficiency actually better?


It depends on how much you're willing to invest in Strength. You need Strength 12 to wield heavy weapons from levels 1-10, and Strength 14 to wield heavy weapons from levels 11-20.

If your technomancer is willing to put in time at the gym to get the necessary muscles, I don't think that spending a few feats to get heavy weapons is an entirely bad idea. Some people might suggest that you multiclass soldiers and get the proficiencies that way, but you will be delaying getting your spellcasting progression by a level.


I forgot to read the prerequisites, did not realize that longarm proficiency was a prereq for heavy. I'll start with long arm and just see where my build takes me. That or grab fabricate arms and blast heavy weapons that way.


bobthe2nd wrote:
I forgot to read the prerequisites, did not realize that longarm proficiency was a prereq for heavy. I'll start with long arm and just see where my build takes me. That or grab fabricate arms and blast heavy weapons that way.

I think that's the right strategy. If you end up wanting another proficiency and you haven't boosted your Dex sky high Heavy Armor makes more sense to me than Heavy Weapons.


My Dec is starting at 16, so I'll likely not go down heavy armor route


Longarm Proficiency is a good choice for pretty much any of the classes that only get up to small arms, save for the Operative. Heavy Weapon Proficiency is more a question of how much you can spare to get enough strength.

Heavy Armor Proficiency is a bit of an odd duck, as you need the strength to take it, and it's not necessarily useful unless your dexterity isn't very good, but begs the question why your dexterity is low if you're putting more points into strength. Dex is king this time around, after all.

If you pick up longarm/heavy weapon proficiency, Weapon Focus and Versatile Weapon Specialization are both a must.


Do I need a high strength to use heavy weapons with fabricate arms?


Looking at the ability itself? You are automatically considered proficient, whether you have the corresponding proficiency feat or not, and regardless of whether you meet the prerequisites for the proficiency feat. However, it does not buy you out of any intrinsic requirements to avoid penalties in using the weapon that come from it being a heavy weapon, so if you don't meet the 12/14 strength requirement, you will take that -2 penalty.

I believe you could technically fabricate power armor around yourself, then next round fabricate a heavy weapon, using the power armor's strength to meet the requirement to avoid low-strength penalties with the heavy weapon, without needing the 13 strength required to qualify for the heavy weapon or power armor proficiencies.


Thanks for the insight!


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I recommend heavy weapons with fabricate arms because you can get good element specific aoe damage on demand. I recommend getting proficiency so that you can use versatile specialization for the damage boost.

It's a feat intensive path, but I believe it makes the most out of the ability.


MR. H wrote:

I recommend heavy weapons with fabricate arms because you can get good element specific aoe damage on demand. I recommend getting proficiency so that you can use versatile specialization for the damage boost.

It's a feat intensive path, but I believe it makes the most out of the ability.

Fabricate Arms grants proficiency, and you should already have Versatile Specialization for long arms, so you don't need HW proficiency.


Xenocrat wrote:
MR. H wrote:

I recommend heavy weapons with fabricate arms because you can get good element specific aoe damage on demand. I recommend getting proficiency so that you can use versatile specialization for the damage boost.

It's a feat intensive path, but I believe it makes the most out of the ability.

Fabricate Arms grants proficiency, and you should already have Versatile Specialization for long arms, so you don't need HW proficiency.

The ability specifically says it does not grant specialization. I assumed that includes combo-ing off other effects to grant specialization.

But I have reconsidered. Sure versatile specialization seems to grant specialization with all fabricated arms.

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