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can a barbarian use a rage power to get a feat that has rage class feature as a prerequisite and would thus only be usable in a rage?


Your question is not entirely clear to me. If a feat has rage class feature as a prerequisite, then the character must have that class feature. This has nothing to do with specific rage powers as far as I can tell.


A barbarian can take a rage power, such as Disruptive, that give him or her a feat while raging.

Advanced Player's Guide wrote:
Disruptive: When raging, the barbarian gains Disruptive as a bonus feat. The barbarian must have the superstition rage power to select this rage power. A barbarian must be at least 8th level to select this rage power.

However, I don't know of any rage power that gives a feat that has Rage Class Feature as a prerequisite.

Or do you mean the more complicated question of whether a feat gained via a rage power and that can be used only during rage would count as having the feat for prerequisites for other feats? I have seen that question debated, but I don't recall the answer. As a GM, I would allow it myself. EDIT: I found some of those old threads, such as Brawler Rage Power Question and Barbarian Rage Powers and Feats. The responses disagree.


Mathmuse wrote:
Or do you mean the more complicated question of whether a feat gained via a rage power and that can be used only during rage would count as having the feat for prerequisites for other feats? I have seen that question debated, but I don't recall the answer. As a GM, I would allow it myself.

I do not know if there is an FAQ out on this. However, if the character had martial flexibility, I would allow the character to take a feat with martial flexibility while raging, which requires the rage power feat as a prerequisite. I am not so sure I would allow the character to take a character level feat that requires the rage power feat as a prerequisite because the character does not have access to that rage power feat all the time. Even so, unless there is some game breaking shenanigans, I could be persuaded in a home game.


Both Ranger style feats and the TWF gained from Brawler's Flurry count as prerequisites even though they are conditional, so I would imagine a Rage Power bonus feat would work the same.


BadBird wrote:
Both Ranger style feats and the TWF gained from Brawler's Flurry count as prerequisites even though they are conditional, so I would imagine a Rage Power bonus feat would work the same.

I am not so sure that this is a good comparison since the ranger style feats are not dependent on turning on a power or other class feature and the brawler's flurry is defined as two-weapon fighting.


im talking about feats like raging vitality and reckless rage feats that only work during a rage could i spend a rage power to get them?


or something like the combat trick rogue talent


Lady-J wrote:
im talking about feats like raging vitality and reckless rage feats that only work during a rage could i spend a rage power to get them?

I do not think so, unless there is a specific rage power says that you can choose a rage-related feat (a kind of barbarian's martial flexibility). I am not aware of any rage powers that grant this and there is no rule that says a character can substitute a rage-related feat for a rage power. Feats and rage powers are separate things.


Lady-J wrote:
im talking about feats like raging vitality and reckless rage feats that only work during a rage could i spend a rage power to get them?

No, there is no rage power that says, "While raging, the barbarian gains Reckless Rage." Nor is there a rage power that lets the barbarian pick a feat.

And you cannot simply swap out a rage power for a feat, not even a feat designed for barbarians.


:( looking for a solution to a feat starved barbarian


Lady-J wrote:
:( looking for a solution to a feat starved barbarian

Dip fighter 1 or 2 levels.


Pink Dragon wrote:
Lady-J wrote:
:( looking for a solution to a feat starved barbarian
Dip fighter 1 or 2 levels.

at 1st i thought this wouldnt work as most of my feats are general/racial feats but it turns out some of those racial feats are classified as combat feats so that would work i would probably do 3 levels tho for the weapon master archetype seeing as how 1 level makes it so i cant get blindsight may as well go a few more until i just barley get blind sense

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