Quest Arc: Into the Unknown - How do you report when multiple GMs ran the various quests?

["The Lucky Halfling"]

I attended Gen Con this past August and managed to get in one of the five quests for the Into the Unkonwn Quest Arc. At the end of the session I was presented with a Chronicle and told that I can finish the other quests wherever I choose.

Recently I found myself running some local Starfinders through the entirety of the Quest Arc. I would like to finish the quest arc on my first character, but how do you go about reporting a quest arc when different GMs ran different parts of the arc?

I would appreciate any insight into how to handle this situation.

[dragonvan]

From the GM perspective, I will be interested to know the answer.

[Gary Bush]

So you played in one of the quest arcs at GenCon? That will not be recorded for you as a player. The GM will get the credit for the table for running the whole session.

You ran the complete quest for players? You should report that table as normal. It counts as a table for you as GM and will appear on the player's record as playing it.

You should now have two chronicles. One for when you played that has 1 arc worth of credit on it. The other is one you earned as GM which you should get complete credit for all 5 arcs. You can't mix the two together.

To clarify, if you play the character that earned the 1 quest arc , you can't go back to the quests. You should record the correct amount of credits, fame/reputation, and XP for 1 arc being completed.

Edit: I give my insight as a GM who ran Starfinder Quests at GenCon and have since ran the quest pack one more time.

[TriOmegaZero]

If the GM runs at least 4 of the quests, they get reported for a table. If player numbers can be attached to that table, they usually are. If it was a whirlwind of one shot quests with different tables every time, I usually don't track the players numbers.

If you didn't get your quest reported as a player, go ahead and report it as a GM.

["The Lucky Halfling"]

Gary, there is nothing that prevents you from going back and finishing the quests. The actual PDF says that you can go back and finish the quests as long as the character the quests are being applied to does not play in something other than the quests. You total what they have accomplished, even if over multiple events, once they complete the quest are or play something that is not part of the quest arc to figure out what they gain.

Steven, so report it and perhaps mark at the bottom of the original chronicle what portions the prior GM ran and then what I ran? I would need to place another chronicle to the side as well for my second character as I have one more quest credit to apply.

I appreciate the input. Thank you.

[Gary Bush]

"The Lucky Halfling" wrote:

Gary, there is nothing that prevents you from going back and finishing the quests. The actual PDF says that you can go back and finish the quests as long as the character the quests are being applied to does not play in something other than the quests. You total what they have accomplished, even if over multiple events, once they complete the quest are or play something that is not part of the quest arc to figure out what they gain.

I thought that is what I said...

Ok I see what I did.

To clarify, if you play the character that earned the 1 quest arc in a different adventure, you can't go back to the quests. You should record the correct amount of credits, fame/reputation, and XP for 1 arc being completed.

I left part of the sentence out. Sorry for the confusion.

"The Lucky Halfling" wrote:

Steven, so report it and perhaps mark at the bottom of the original chronicle what portions the prior GM ran and then what I ran? I would need to place another chronicle to the side as well for my second character as I have one more quest credit to apply.

I don't think you can combine a chronicle sheet where you were a player for part of it and then a GM for the other parts. Trying to do that will cause problems. Best to keep chronicles earned as a player separate from chronicles earned as a GM.

[TriOmegaZero]

It is much simpler and clear cut to just apply the GM credit to a different character. I'm not sure that you can't combine player and GM credit for quests, but I could see it restricted because of the headache it causes.

["The Lucky Halfling"]

Gary, after rereading the blurb in the "Into the Unknown" PDF, it would appear that you can apply chronicles that do not grant experience between the quests.

In regards to reporting the quests, it's kind of a headache no matter what. There are players out there who have had the quest arc completed on a single character with more than one GM. How do you track that? Who gets credit for running? It seems like they should have broken down the quests into five parts inside of the tracking system.

I understand wanting a person to complete the quest arc on any given character as either a player or a GM, but there are still questions to be answered here.

[DrakeRoberts]

I'm curious about this too. I have a group of players who played different arcs of the quest at GenCon. In a few days we're hoping to get together and split GMing duties so that people get to finish playing the parts they missed and (mostly) GM parts they already plyed that others didn't. From what I'm hearing, it sounds like we will all need two sheets/characters, and one of those two will only have the rather limited number of arcs that we individually GM (which, frankly, may hinder a characters development in some ways more than no credit at all, I think?). The other will be the player sheet which we'll all be able to complete... except the one person who draws the short straw to run part 5 (since none of us have played that one before)? Furthermore, since none of us will be GM'ing 4 parts, none of us get GM credit (based on Steven's earlier statement)? And yet... then how do the players of our upcoming game get credit online if none of us have run enough to get GM credit?

[Gary Bush]

"The Lucky Halfling" wrote:

Gary, after rereading the blurb in the "Into the Unknown" PDF, it would appear that you can apply chronicles that do not grant experience between the quests.

Yea, I would agree. Chronicles like "Welcome to Starfinder Society" or convention boons I could see being applied in between playing another part.

[Gary Bush]

"The Lucky Halfling" wrote:

In regards to reporting the quests, it's kind of a headache no matter what. There are players out there who have had the quest arc completed on a single character with more than one GM. How do you track that? Who gets credit for running? It seems like they should have broken down the quests into five parts inside of the tracking system.

I understand wanting a person to complete the quest arc on any given character as either a player or a GM, but there are still questions to be answered here.

My experience with GenCon shows that players are not reported if they played the demo tables. Only the GM will get reported for credit.

Guess we really need Campaign Leadership to help provide direction.

[Mark Stratton]

No, we do not report players for the demo tables. That's deliberate. Can you imagine the reporting nightmare that would be. We do report the GMs.

It doesn't really matter - the chronicle sheet is what is important. Honestly, if I had started as a player but didn't finish, I would not apply any GM credit to that character. I would have that character finish it out.

["The Lucky Halfling"]

I could see filling out a session for each quest that was completed under the "Starfinder Society Roleplaying Guild Quest: Into the Unknown - Starfinder Society Roleplaying Guild Quest: Into the Unknown" scenario.

• Gives credit to the GM and each player for what they have ran/played.
  
• The scenario name is generic enough that the GM can still apply their credit to whatever part of the quest arc they want and does not have to match what the players gained credit for.
  
• Reputation gain would be tracked by what portion they completed. See spoiler for an example.
  
• This would allow someone to apply both player and GM credit to the same character for different parts of the quest arc.
  
• You can track how much they completed before they played another scenario for experience.

Reputation Gain:

• GM is applying her/his first quest credit to a new chronicle.
  
• Player 1 is gaining his second quest credit to her/his chronicle.
  
• Player 2 is gaining his third quest credit to her/his chronicle.
  
• Player 3 is gaining his fourth quest credit to her/his chronicle.
  
• Player 4 is gaining his fifth quest credit to her/his chronicle.

The GM marks consults the reward for having one quest credit and notes one point of reputation is gained. He marks down one point for himself.

The GM notes that the reputation gain remains the same at two and three quest credits as it did at one quest credit. He marks player 1 and 2 down for zero reputation.

The GM notes that the reputation gain increase by one at four quest credits and marks down player 3 for one reputation.

The GM notes that the reputation gain stays the same upon completion of the quest arc with five quest credits as it did at four quest credits and marks down player 4 for zero reputation.

[Gary Bush]

Just simpler to keep them separate...

Paizo does not have the ability to report 1/5 of a table for tracking of GM Novas.

["The Lucky Halfling"]

Mark Stratton wrote:

No, we do not report players for the demo tables. That's deliberate. Can you imagine the reporting nightmare that would be. We do report the GMs.

It doesn't really matter - the chronicle sheet is what is important. Honestly, if I had started as a player but didn't finish, I would not apply any GM credit to that character. I would have that character finish it out.

Did each table a GM ran get reported separately so that they got a GM credit for each quest, as opposed to five quests, they ran?

[Gary Bush]

Not each quest. For each 5 hour session.

As example, when I was running a 5 hour block, I actually was able to run only 4 quests. This was do to several factors: teaching a new system, time for the players to clear out and setup, players looking over pregens to play, space combat taking time.

[Woran]

In pathfinder society you also report quests in blocks.

[DrakeRoberts]

What if you don't run a 5 hour block? What if you only run one or two quests?

[Woran]

DrakeRoberts wrote:

What if you don't run a 5 hour block? What if you only run one or two quests?

If you dont run a full set, quests get reported per 4 hours (which is a single slot).

Ideally, you run them for the same event. Then you can ask the organisere, "hey bob, last game day I ran 2 quests. I'll run two more this game day. Can you report for me this game day?"

If not, you can always report yourself once you have reached 4 hours (in whatever configuration). It works on the honor system.

[DrakeRoberts]

Tineke Bolleman wrote:

DrakeRoberts wrote:

What if you don't run a 5 hour block? What if you only run one or two quests?

If you dont run a full set, quests get reported per 4 hours (which is a single slot).

Ideally, you run them for the same event. Then you can ask the organisere, "hey bob, last game day I ran 2 quests. I'll run two more this game day. Can you report for me this game day?"

If not, you can always report yourself once you have reached 4 hours (in whatever configuration). It works on the honor system.

Thank you.

EDIT: So we'll report GMs in blocks of 4 hours, holding off for any such hours not completed (say, someone gm's 2 hours, they'll not report until GMing 2 hrs more elsewhere), and we'll not worry about anyone reporting who played, as sheets are king and nobody is likely to have 4 hrs to report as gm this time as we're all splitting gm duties. Such is my plan for tonight unless someone speaks out here saying that's all wrong.

I appreciate the clarifications.